Loris Karius

[Mark79]

Got to buy.

We can’t have another season of the Mignolet/Karius/Ward conundrum. The answer isn’t there.

[Tee]

As Klopp would say, it’s a no brainer

[Irishnev]

Good thread on Karius

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[RedReet]

There have been a few decent and well balanced articles on him recently, which is refreshing compared to the some of the drivel that's been written.

Ultimately they all arrive at the same conclusion though. I (probably naively) was happy enough to see him given a shot at redemption if Roma didn't lower their asking price for Allison, but the Tranmere game probably swung it for me.

[Fierce]

The Tranmere game isn't enough for me to write him off

BUT. We only have a small window in which to make a decision, and it is this that will probably seal his fate.

If we were mid season when he suffered that terrible collision that affected his coordination and sadly led to errors that would not have happened had he not received such an almighty blow to the head; then he would quite rightly be given the chance to prove he can come back from it

Our issue is that we have 3 weeks to decide whether or not that's going to happen, and that's probably not long enough

[RedReet]

I wouldn't say I've written him off as such, but pre Tranmere, I definitely had him as favourite for a starting position against West Ham in August. I just don't see that now. I wouldn't be as bothered as most if he did start, but at this stage I just think there is a greater likelihood of another keeper joining, or Ward doing enough in pre-season to warrant a trial run.

[Exiled_red]

For me it was always going to be about whether he was able to handle it mentally, it looks like he hasn't been able to handle it so far. Given the short time the transfer window is open we need to figure out who will be our no 1 this season and figure out what's best to help Karius get over this (that could be anything from just taking him out of the firing line to loan move somewhere or selling him)

[Phoenix07]

Loris Karius‘ struggles at Liverpool are well documented, but the view from Mainz is that the goalkeeper is “unrecognisable” from before his move.

Karius has endured a turbulent two months since his nightmare in the Champions League final, and continued his miserable run with a costly error against Tranmere Rovers in pre-season.

His reception from away supporters so far this summer is a sign of things to come for the 25-year-old if he remains Jurgen Klopp‘s No. 1.

Jeers from the stands have resulted in shaky displays against lower-league sides, and despite a staunch backing from a section of supporters after his post-Kyiv concussion diagnosis there is little belief in Karius at this stage.

Compounding his issues on Merseyside, journalist Melissa Reddy has revealed an interchange with a member of the backroom staff from Karius’ time at Mainz, who insisted he is “unrecognisable.”

“Karius is now in a position where I don’t see how he recovers from Kyiv,” she told The Anfield Wrap.

“Even with the caveat of concussion, you’ve seen in the warmup games already that it’s still playing on his mind.

“Somebody who has worked with him at Mainz said to me about three, four months ago—and this was even when he was looking decent: ‘He’s unrecognisable. We don’t know who this goalkeeper is.’

“His biggest thing was he was assertive, he was commanding, he was quite confident.

“We don’t see all those things anymore and I don’t know how he gets it back, especially since it’s going to be so unforgiving.”

Karius was voted the second best goalkeeper in the Bundesliga in his final season with Mainz, and made the £4.7 million move to Anfield at 22.

He conceded 124 goals and kept 32 clean sheets in 96 games for the German club, and has so far shipped 47 and registered 22 shutouts in 49 outings for the Reds.

Liverpool have subsequently bid £62 million for Roma goalkeeper Godlisson, with a eventual deal expected to be reached at around £66 million.

This highlights Klopp’s loss of faith in Karius, and it is little surprise given his downfall from one of the Bundesliga’s brightest to a laughing stock in the Premier League.

https://www.thisisanfield.com/2018/0...-at-liverpool/

[baitman]

From asertive commanding and confident to hesitant jibbering wreck, well done achterberg.

[frank the tank]

I think there might be something in the coaching alright..... I'd like to see Karius getting a loan move away. He is too young to write off yet

[Norbs]

His stats are better here yet he was voted 2nd best in the bundasliga. Do we heap too much pressure on our keepers?

[Kenneth]

I think moving from Mainz in his own country to the upper echelons of the premier league does that. Some people can't deal with such things well.

[Charly]

His stats are better here yet he was voted 2nd best in the bundasliga. Do we heap too much pressure on our keepers?

No, because we expect them to maintain their concentration for 90 minutes... and they chose tonsign for LFC, and thst carries certain expectations.

There is plenty of valid criticsm... and he just looks unsafe at the moment. It would be suicidal to start the season with him holding the no.1 shirt.

If he had come through preseason totally solid, then I would be all for giving him a chance. But he looks like he lacks confidence. One mistake once the season starts could be devastating.

[RedReet]

I think moving from Mainz in his own country to the upper echelons of the premier league does that. Some people can't deal with such things well.

I think the setback of getting injured just before the start of his first season didn't help either.

[Tatterdemalion]

There have been a few decent and well balanced articles on him recently, which is refreshing compared to the some of the drivel that's been written.

Ultimately they all arrive at the same conclusion though. I (probably naively) was happy enough to see him given a shot at redemption if Roma didn't lower their asking price for Allison, but the Tranmere game probably swung it for me.

His video documenting his holiday did it for me. He doesn't have the right mentality.