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    The Race for the Top 4 2017

    This is what it is all about for us now. The league is pretty much decided and Spurs has just about locked in 2nd place, leaving 4 teams fighting it out for 2 places. Leaving us 6 'cup finals' to make the CL for next season.

    The run home for City, United and Arsenal is obviously on paper much harder than ours, but who knows what that means for LFC considering our form against mid table and lower teams.

    Also, with the relegation battle seemingly between 4 teams now, games against Swansea, Hull, Middlesbrough and Sunderland all have additional levels of difficulty.

    LFC Run Home
    WBA (a)
    Palace (h)
    Watford (a)
    Soton (h)
    West Ham (a)
    Middlesbrough (h)

    MCFC Run home
    WBA (h)
    Soton (a)
    Man United (h)
    Middlesbrough (a)
    Palace (h)
    Leicester (h)
    Watford (a)

    Man United
    Soton (a)
    Chelea (h)
    Burnley (a)
    MCFC (a)
    Swanea (h)
    Arsenal (a)
    Spurs (a)

    Palace (h)

    Arsenal
    Sunderland (h)
    Soton (a)
    Middlesbrough (a)
    Leicester (h)
    Spurs (a)
    Man United (h)

    Stoke (a)
    Everton(h)

    If you look at upcoming fixtures the bold games are the most likely tricky games for each club, based on top 4 rivals or teams in the relegation scrap. It looks like United are going to have a hugely difficult run in from that point of view.

    Injuries are also becoming a focus for a few clubs with Mane out for us and Koscienly a huge loss for Arsenal, while City have Jesus on the way back who was excellent for them and United getting closer to full strength after having some injury concerns.

    Considering Arsenal and United have quite a few games left against other top 6 teams including each other, we probably don't need as many points to make top 4 as we may be thinking, as they will naturally take points off each other.

    Meanwhile, United will also have to deal with the Europa League and the sheer number of games they have to play and Arsenal look like their squad is starting to fall apart, especially without Koscienly who seems to keep them together at the back.

    Be interesting to hear what everyone things is a realistic required number of wins from the final 6 games and whether LFC can finish above City in 3rd place.
    Last edited by Fernandinho; 11-04-17, 06:57 AM.
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    #2
    I think we can expect 14 points out of 18 (draws against Southampton and Crystal Palace). I think we just need to sit back and enjoy the show!
    Was muß, das muß.

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      #3
      What do people want from the United - City game. A City Win or a United win? Do we hope United win and we go balls out for third with City, or hope that City hammer United which means fourth has a better chance of being secured?

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        #4
        A draw. Both drop points and we'll be on course for 3rd at that rate. 3rd = automatic CL. No qualifier.
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          #5
          Agree that a City United draw would be best for us.

          But I think that we will likely drop points in 2 or 3 more games, so it is probably more important for us that Arsenal and United draw when they play and that both teams drop points in at least one other game but preferably 2 so that 4th can be ours without the need to win every game.

          I think based on their runs home, United are going to need to go on an incredible run to even get close to us. Arsenal have a more favourable run so it is probably them who we need to keep dropping points.
          Last edited by Fernandinho; 11-04-17, 07:06 AM.
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            #6
            A Man Utd win wouldn't be bad for us considering Utd's run. This is City's only big clash so if they drop all their points and Utd crash a few times then we're looking much better.
            Was muß, das muß.

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              #7
              It's quite an exciting end to the season to be fair. Will be interesting.
              Klopp on LFC vs MUFC (March 9th 2016) - "This is why I love football. This is why we watched it when we were young. I can still not have enough of it."


              Always, keep your face to the sun, and shadows will fall behind you.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Slinky Skills View Post
                It's quite an exciting end to the season to be fair. Will be interesting.
                You say that now, by Sunday you'll be planning your next long walk!

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Bloodraven View Post
                  You say that now, by Sunday you'll be planning your next long walk!

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                  Ha ha already planned lol. I will be missing the game Sunday anyway more than likely as I'm with the missus.
                  Klopp on LFC vs MUFC (March 9th 2016) - "This is why I love football. This is why we watched it when we were young. I can still not have enough of it."


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                    #10
                    The thing is I can't say with any conviction we will definitely win any of our remaining games. We obviously will win some but they are all potential banana skins. Not one is a given. That's because we don't have a quality forward that punishes **** teams, a flat track bully.

                    9 more points could be enough.
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
                      The thing is I can't say with any conviction we will definitely win any of our remaining games. We obviously will win some but they are all potential banana skins. Not one is a given. That's because we don't have a quality forward that punishes **** teams, a flat track bully.

                      9 more points could be enough.
                      Yep. It's not 6 cup finals. Let's lose a few more games before we start talking about cup finals.
                      Oh I don't know.

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                        #12
                        At least we are still in the fight.
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                        Those that killed her, were following the law.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Slinky Skills View Post
                          What do people want from the United - City game. A City Win or a United win? Do we hope United win and we go balls out for third with City, or hope that City hammer United which means fourth has a better chance of being secured?

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                          Will tell you after 3 games. But my gut feeling is a City win would be better as cant see United getting much from there last few games and if we win our next 3 will definitely want a United win as we could be getting top 3
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
                            The thing is I can't say with any conviction we will definitely win any of our remaining games. We obviously will win some but they are all potential banana skins. Not one is a given. That's because we don't have a quality forward that punishes **** teams, a flat track bully.

                            9 more points could be enough.
                            If you believe 9 more points is enough (and I am inclined to agree it may be) then at worst that is only 2 wins and 3 draws. You can even throw a surprise loss in there - probably against Palace.

                            With Hendo (leader!) and Lallana to return in the next fortnight and a week long break between each game, even if we start off casually we still have time to nick 2 wins.
                            One tit for another.

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                              #15
                              At worst it's 3 wins and 3 defeats, no?
                              Oh I don't know.

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