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    Good variation of views there.

    Personally, I get the viewpoint that we won’t pay him silly money, but at the same time, football is heading in that direction. Elite world superstars WILL command wages of £400k or more per week, that will gradually become the going rate. If we can’t live in that world, what does it say about our status as a club and where we sit in the food chain?

    Ultimately, and I know this might be unpopular, but if we can’t afford elite players (and I’m not talking about signing the M’Bappes or Messis of this world, this is a player we already have at our club), then are the owners financially powerful enough to keep us at the top of the game?

    They got us there (with much help from Klopp) and that’s a great achievement but if football moves forward at a pace they’re unable to sustain, then surely we either move on from them or get left behind.

    I don’t want us to go back to the days of having to sell our best players. Whether it’s because our club cannot match their ambition or whether it’s because we can’t match their financial requirements. And let’s be honest here, we aren’t talking about a greedy player asking for stupid money in this scenario. You could feasibly list Mo Salah as being one of the world’s best 4 or 5 players at the moment. £400k per week for that, isn’t radical, given the market rate.

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      We obviously want to keep him and obviously he is going to want a pay rise, hopefully we can work something out that sees a relatively modest base payrise but large incentive bonuses, that way if he keeps performing at the top level he will effectively get a big payrise but there is reduced risk to the club if he doesn't.

      His options for other clubs appear limited at the moment, Real and Barca are a mess at the moment. Hopefully Gini is feeding back to him what a **** show PSG is too
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        Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
        We obviously want to keep him and obviously he is going to want a pay rise, hopefully we can work something out that sees a relatively modest base payrise but large incentive bonuses, that way if he keeps performing at the top level he will effectively get a big payrise but there is reduced risk to the club if he doesn't.

        His options for other clubs appear limited at the moment, Real and Barca are a mess at the moment. Hopefully Gini is feeding back to him what a **** show PSG is too
        If this is to happen, hopefully it will not be too incentivised on goals scored. I find both Mo and Sadio quite refreshing this season. They are finally passing more to each other and both seem happier with their game.

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          Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
          There’s a real conflict now with Mo. On one hand, he’s one of the best players in the world and we simply must keep him.

          On the other hand, he’s one of the best players in the world and as such, could command £400k per week. Do LFC just pay him whatever he wants and risk alienating others & smashing the wage structure to pieces? If Mo gets that sort of wage, some others will warrant similar & then we’ll be hearing about Mo, Virgil & Robbo’s new super high salaries as the reason we don’t have a pot to urinate in, when it comes to making signings.

          It’s a quandary.



          The thing so that if we sold him in the morning for massive money and then tried to bring in a player who looks like he might be on the same level or close to breaking through to being on the same level, then the list of players would be a very short one and most likely they would all be players looking for the same sort of mega wage as well as commanding a huge transfer fee as well.

          I get the logic of saying his wage demands (if true) could have the sort of knock on effect that limits our spending on new players or that if we sell him for say 200m that we could then go and buy two 100m and make the team stronger, but if Mo was at any other club we would be looking at him and saying it was a no brainer to bring him in no matter the cost.

          For me I would be looking to put him on a contract that gives him the potential to earn that 400k per week over the course of a season. Basically give him what his is meant to be on right now, a highly incentivized contract, just with some bigger numbers attached.

          Could be a weekly wage of 250k and then up to 150k a week in incentives for goals scored, assists made, games won etc. Hell looking at how his tracking back seems to have gone up another level this season I would even let him get a bonus for clean sheets

          Keeping him would be my aim and the only way I would sell if if the player himself put in a transfer request. I have a suspicion that Mo is the sort of player that will still be putting up elite or close to elite numbers when he is 32 or 33 and that he looks after himself physically in a manner similar to the likes of Ronaldo.

          Of all our attacking players at the club he is the very last one I would look to sell no matter how much sense it seemed to make financially. Trying to think of one player in the game today that we could replace him with in a like for like manner. One player we could get and that would play out wide right for us and get at least 75% of Mo's numbers and give the same level of tracking back when off the ball. I cannot think of one.


          Sure we could sell Mo and then bring in Haaland for example. We would straight away be back to having a player that wants a massive wage and other players looking for pay bumps as a result. Plus on the pitch we would have upgraded massively on our central attacking slot but now have a Mo sized hole on the right. Maybe Mane goes to the right in the scenario and Jota to the left, but I do not think we would see a massive improvement in the attacking numbers as a whole.
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            I agree with you on all counts. It relies on Mo accepting what we’d offer though & while I hope he does of course, it’s not a given.

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              Until now, I've not seen anyone as indispensible for Klopp, but we need to get Salah tied down, he is in the top five players in the world and will be there for the next two or three years. Just keep him.
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                Originally posted by spud_gun View Post
                To those who're suggesting he'll be sold.

                Who's in a position to buy him?

                We're not selling to another English club.
                None of the German club could afford his transfer fee + wages
                Barca are skint
                We're not going to loan him out with an agreement to buy so that rules out all the Italian clubs
                Barca are skint
                Real are all in on Mbappe
                That only really leaves PSG.
                I think you've answered your own question there

                Anyway it's just my random, baseless hunch and previously stated I'm usually wrong

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                  Originally posted by Pablo View Post
                  I think you've answered your own question there

                  Anyway it's just my random, baseless hunch and previously stated I'm usually wrong
                  Looks like Mbappe for Salah for PSG & Us if that's the case.
                  Don't think Salah would get on well with all them inflated egos in that PSG dressing room though!
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                    Originally posted by Angryred View Post
                    Looks like Mbappe for Salah for PSG & Us if that's the case.
                    Don't think Salah would get on well with all them inflated egos in that PSG dressing room though!
                    Yeah I mean he might not want to leave at all. Both Suarez and Coutinho forced moves. They weren't sold against their wishes.

                    As Buzzo has suggested hopefully Salah wants to stay and secure his legacy here.

                    I just worry without selling someone major soon that we won't be able to invest to the level required to keep competing for major honours.

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                      Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
                      Good variation of views there.

                      Personally, I get the viewpoint that we won’t pay him silly money, but at the same time, football is heading in that direction. Elite world superstars WILL command wages of £400k or more per week, that will gradually become the going rate. If we can’t live in that world, what does it say about our status as a club and where we sit in the food chain?

                      Ultimately, and I know this might be unpopular, but if we can’t afford elite players (and I’m not talking about signing the M’Bappes or Messis of this world, this is a player we already have at our club), then are the owners financially powerful enough to keep us at the top of the game?

                      They got us there (with much help from Klopp) and that’s a great achievement but if football moves forward at a pace they’re unable to sustain, then surely we either move on from them or get left behind.

                      I don’t want us to go back to the days of having to sell our best players. Whether it’s because our club cannot match their ambition or whether it’s because we can’t match their financial requirements. And let’s be honest here, we aren’t talking about a greedy player asking for stupid money in this scenario. You could feasibly list Mo Salah as being one of the world’s best 4 or 5 players at the moment. £400k per week for that, isn’t radical, given the market rate.


                      I think you could make an argument for him being the best player in the world right now.
                      Modifying post.

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                        To think Mo will never in his life be talked about for the Balon D'Or despite being the best player in the world in the last few years. Shows how meaningless/biased/political/racist? the award is.

                        Jorgino will have won it once in his life.
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                          Originally posted by BigChief View Post
                          To think Mo will never in his life be talked about for the Balon D'Or despite being the best player in the world in the last few years. Shows how meaningless/biased/political/racist? the award is.

                          Jorgino will have won it once in his life.

                          I think he’ll win it next year tbh (end of this season). Messi gone to a meaningless league- if PSG don’t win the CL, there’s no way he’ll be in the short list. Ronaldo is in the same league as Salah, if Salah out performs him or more importantly maybe if Liverpool out perform united, I think that puts him ahead of him too, automatically.

                          Salahs never gonna do anything too notable on the international stage, and the fact there’s no majors tournaments next summer will mean it will be judged purely on what players are doing at their clubs, which gives Salah a better chance than other years. If we win either PL or CL I feel like Salah will win it.
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                            There's a decent chance he'll leave on a free.

                            He's one of the top players in the world, therefore could/should be paid the same level but we can't afford to - so either he's happy to accept an improved contract (but below) market worth or he sits it out and leaves on a free.

                            Messi stays at PSG for 2 years then they sign Salah on a free for that right wing spot.
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                              Originally posted by Rich View Post
                              There's a decent chance he'll leave on a free.

                              He's one of the top players in the world, therefore could/should be paid the same level but we can't afford to - so either he's happy to accept an improved contract (but below) market worth or he sits it out and leaves on a free.

                              Messi stays at PSG for 2 years then they sign Salah on a free for that right wing spot.
                              Don't think the club would allow it. If he doesn't sign this year we'll have to cash in. Losing him and potentially Klopp would be too big a blow, cash in and give Klopp the time and money to replace him for us.

                              Obviously I hope we don't, but I don't see us allowing him to run down his contract.
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                                Originally posted by Rich View Post
                                There's a decent chance he'll leave on a free.

                                He's one of the top players in the world, therefore could/should be paid the same level but we can't afford to - so either he's happy to accept an improved contract (but below) market worth or he sits it out and leaves on a free.

                                Messi stays at PSG for 2 years then they sign Salah on a free for that right wing spot.
                                If we can’t afford to keep one of the world’s best players - and bearing in mind, this is at a time when our club status is the biggest it has ever been - what picture does that paint of our ownership model and how conducive it is to being at the top of the modern game?

                                If a model is designed in a way that means we cannot afford to keep Mo Salah, is that the model we want?

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