Mo Salah

[kingfunk]

I don’t believe Mo genuinely wants to leave. He’ll likely see out his contract, especially with his wife and little girl so settled here. This feels more like a failed power play than anything else. He needs to apologise, accept that he’s no longer an automatic starter, and fully back the team through this transition. The real question is whether he’s capable of doing that.

[Buzzo]

I don’t believe Mo genuinely wants to leave. He’ll likely see out his contract, especially with his wife and little girl so settled here. This feels more like a failed power play than anything else. He needs to apologise, accept that he’s no longer an automatic starter, and fully back the team through this transition. The real question is whether he’s capable of doing that.

Yeah I agree

He’s clearly frustrated with everything going on. If it’s true that the club have not spoken with him (obvs from what we know - can’t claim this for sure caveat caveat caveat) about this in light of us signing three forwards does seem pretty wild.

[Doc_Piptorious]

Yeah I agree

He’s clearly frustrated with everything going on. If it’s true that the club have not spoken with him (obvs from what we know - can’t claim this for sure caveat caveat caveat) about this in light of us signing three forwards does seem pretty wild.

What kind of goes against this, and with the caveat that Slot was the only person named, is the fact that Mo said that Slot told him 24 hours in advance that he would be on the bench and that he and Slot had a meeting over it.


Everything else was vague and with no other names being mentioned.

But on footballing and on pitch related matters, Salah cannot play the nobody spoke to me card because the only person that matters with regards to those things told him to his face and well in advance of games.

As both Slot and Salah have confirmed that, think it is safe to say that is one of the few things in all of this that can safely be called a fact.

[Doc_Piptorious]

What I do think is very unfair at the moment is the way Slot and Salah's teammates are having to constantly field questions about what Salah said, yet the one person who does not get grilled by the media is the guy who seemed eager to bring vague claims out into the open last weekend.


He got to cause a ****storm and then sit far away from the fallout.

[Buzzo]

What kind of goes against this, and with the caveat that Slot was the only person named, is the fact that Mo said that Slot told him 24 hours in advance that he would be on the bench and that he and Slot had a meeting over it.


Everything else was vague and with no other names being mentioned.

But on footballing and on pitch related matters, Salah cannot play the nobody spoke to me card because the only person that matters with regards to those things told him to his face and well in advance of games.

As both Slot and Salah have confirmed that, think it is safe to say that is one of the few things in all of this that can safely be called a fact.

Yeah I more mean that the implications of us signing three elite hungry forwards meant that in general he may have to face more time on the bench. That would seem an obvious conversation to have. Get ahead of it.

You could even whack in a bit of data science - ‘to get the best out of you this season Mo, we are going to have to manage your minutes’.

[baitman]

I dont care is salah apologies, he isnt playing well and thats not likely to improve, and after his im undroppable rant he can **** off.

[Doc_Piptorious]

Yeah I more mean that the implications of us signing three elite hungry forwards meant that in general he may have to face more time on the bench. That would seem an obvious conversation to have. Get ahead of it.

You could even whack in a bit of data science - ‘to get the best out of you this season Mo, we are going to have to manage your minutes’.

Maybe but then you are getting into a "should the players have a say in transfers" territory slightly. Whether one thinks they should or not, I think players that are on the downward turn should defo not have a say when it comes to their own competition.

You are a footballer, having competition for a starting position is just something that you should have to face.

Though what you say does possibly have a ring to truth to it when one looks at the attackers we have brought in over the past five or so years. They tend to be players that play either centrally or on the left, usually capable of doing both.

Competition on the right side simply has not been a thing.

[Exiled_red]

One other thing about this situation and him not having to prove himself or not believing he should be on the bench and whatever was said in the summer obviously we don't know exactly was said.

But to Salah there is an implication that he will be playing every week, but on the other hand from the club's point of view there was an implication that he would be playing at a particular level - maybe not as high as last year, but we weren't expecting a drop off as big as we have seen. This implied agreement works both ways. If he were playing well he would be playing every week and there would be no complaints. The problem is he hasn't been, and we are now about a third of the way through the season when this kicked off so he had been given time to work his way back to form.

Obviously there can be arguments as to how long he is entitled to be out of form before he is dropped, and if the side were playing well and getting results, it were just his form that was off you might be more prepared to give him a bit more time, but the whole team wasn't working and things needed to be changed no one is immune from criticism. If the team were able to start playing well and getting results and he were able to play himself back into form that would be great, but it doesn't look like happening.

Perhaps the AFCON situation also forced Slot's hand, the side weren't playing well, he needed to make changes perhaps deciding that he wanted consistency, if that's the case he probably doesn't want to get a working side then 3 games later have to rip it up because one of the key players is off for a month.

No idea if he comes back after AFCON, but based on previous seasons when he has returned from AFCON you wouldn't expect his form to be great, he's tended to have had big drops in form when coming back from AFCON in previous years...

[fidget]

Is it tho?

What next? ‘The Salah years - the darkest period in Liverpools history’.

We went on some insane unbeaten runs with Salah in the team.

The amount of sensationalist content around this is mind blowing. It wasn’t even all that mental what he said - the predictable reaction has been nuts. I’m all for discussing what’s going on right now, even if it does involve Jamie Carragher putting himself into the front row with his 8 minute mega rant which contained a fair few shots below the belt.

But we cannot re write history.

Some people (and I’m mainly talking Twitter) clearly never really liked Salah. Some people only liked Salah.

We are in the endgame of his career with us one way or another, hopefully it can play out without anymore vitriol.

It's mad how much some people seem to relish this.

[vlahka]

I don’t believe Mo genuinely wants to leave. He’ll likely see out his contract, especially with his wife and little girl so settled here. This feels more like a failed power play than anything else. He needs to apologise, accept that he’s no longer an automatic starter, and fully back the team through this transition. The real question is whether he’s capable of doing that.

I'm going to go with the theory that he found out the club has been planning to sell him in january. Would line up with his statement of 1 person wanting him out of the club, and also saying goodbye to the fans because its most likely a done deal.

[Doc_Piptorious]

I'm going to go with the theory that he found out the club has been planning to sell him in january. Would line up with his statement of 1 person wanting him out of the club, and also saying goodbye to the fans because its most likely a done deal.

Would not make a jot of difference if a transfer fee etc was agreed upon as he would be the one that has the final say on whether he went or not and on what wages he would get and so on.

[danperkins]

There's nothing to be sentimental about. He deserves to be out of the team, he can't handle that and lashed out, so we have to ignore him, get rid asap, and focus on performances going forward. We don't need mo Salah.

[peterbread]

Compare Mo and his reaction to Andy Robertson. He isn’t getting a big final deal and has been just as big a part for this period of success and he’s done it at both ends of the pitch. He’s level with Trent with 59 assists so could end his time here as having the most assists for a defender and will go down as a great of the club.

His replacement is already at the club and he’s sharing his minutes with him. Not one word or complaint and I doubt he would. He’s doing what is best for the team not himself.

Whatever issues you have deal with them behind the scenes and don’t add pressure on the team when it’s already a difficult period especially as a senior leader in the squad.

[Mark79]

Compare Mo and his reaction to Andy Robertson. He isnÂ’t getting a big final deal and has been just as big a part for this period of success and heÂ’s done it at both ends of the pitch. HeÂ’s level with Trent with 59 assists so could end his time here as having the most assists for a defender and will go down as a great of the club.

His replacement is already at the club and heÂ’s sharing his minutes with him. Not one word or complaint and I doubt he would. HeÂ’s doing what is best for the team not himself.

Whatever issues you have deal with them behind the scenes and donÂ’t add pressure on the team when itÂ’s already a difficult period especially as a senior leader in the squad.

Why compare them, they’re not like for like situations at all?

Robbo knew the club was signing his long term replacement and that LFC wouldn’t stand his way if he wanted to move. He decided to stay, but he made his decision with complete openness from the club.

Salah on the other hand, appears to be claiming that the club gave him assurances over extending his contract, but are a now looking to cash in on him now that he’s under contract again.

It’s totally fair to be critical of Salah for going to the media like he did, but using Robbo to further paint him in a bad light seems unnecessary and in bad faith.

[rudedog]

There's nothing to be sentimental about. He deserves to be out of the team, he can't handle that and lashed out, so we have to ignore him, get rid asap, and focus on performances going forward. We don't need mo Salah.

Why does he deserve to be out of the team when others are equally as bad but still get picked? That’s possibly how Mo is seeing it.