Burnley (H) Post match mash up

[rodo]

What's your solution to this then.

a decent centre half and another proven goalscorer would of helped

[Slinky Skills]

What's your solution to this then.

Rich, not having a pop at you here and it's not aimed just at you but do the Mods and many others have to question when someone posts something negative? Because that's how it feels. Maybe Rodo like me and many others don't have a solution, not everyone has a solution for things. Sometimes we just post and express feelings if you're unhappy with something. I very rarely see the mods unhappy, we could get a hammering and the mods still see the positives from it.

If Rodo thinks the problems haven't been addressed then that's up to him to post that, he shouldn't be picked up on it. I get it when I post things, yes I'm a miserable cunt but if a fan isn't happy then they will post something.

I know Mods have to show a more positive outlook on life but it seems some people on here just don't get miserable, or perhaps some are deluded and don't see that there are clearly things wrong.

And before you respond to my post, I am happy with the way we are going forward and overall I am happy with Klopp but I am not happy that basic errors still happen and seemingly Klopp (and his team) have failed to address this.

[Venton]

a decent centre half and another proven goalscorer would of helped

A simple reply to an obvious question.

[calvoboy]

I didn't watch the match yesterday but did this morning. I don't understand the negativity at all. I thought we played very well and were very fluent and should have won the game easily. As long as we cut out the mistakes, we will be fine. It's still very early days.

On the game again, Coutinho played very well, as did Sturridge. It's very encouraging that we can rotate as much and still not lose the fluency and the verve going forward. Special mention also to Milner who acquitted himself well in the middle and Can, who is now a very important player for us. I'd like to see more of him in the controlling midfield role.

On Can - go back and watch the "two free headers" corner sequence in the second half where they nearly scored.

1) Firstly, he was at fault, as was Klavan, for the mix up that gifted them the corner in the first place

2) Then, we mark with a hybrid system now (or appeared to for this game at least), and Can was one of four players man-marking players in the box. On both corners he got touch-tight with Ben Mee just before the ball came in, before leaving him completely resulting in a free header both times.

Can's great at looking elegant in a midfield that's having plenty of the ball, but his concentration lapses too often at the moment. He's always having to react to situations (usually well to be fair) because he hasn't put in the effort a split second sooner - the opposite of Milner and Wijnaldum.

[rodo]

A simple reply to an obvious question.

seemed pretty obvious to 99.9% of the fan base that we needed a centre half and guess what we didnt get one and guess what we are leaking goals not exactly rocket science football

[Venton]

seemed pretty obvious to 99.9% of the fan base that we needed a centre half and guess what we didnt get one and guess what we are leaking goals not exactly rocket science football

I'm still astounded at our back line this season. I like Robertson so far and TAA is coming along but **** me the rest? Baffled.

[rodo]

Rich, not having a pop at you here and it's not aimed just at you but do the Mods and many others have to question when someone posts something negative? Because that's how it feels. Maybe Rodo like me and many others don't have a solution, never everyone has a solution for things. Sometimes we just post and express feelings if you're unhappy with something. I very rarely see the mods unhappy, we could get a hammering and the mods still see the positives from it.

If Rodo thinks the problems haven't been addressed then that's up to him to post that, he shouldn't be picked up on it. I get it when I post things, yes I'm a miserable cunt but if a fan isn't happy then they will post something.

I know Mods have to show a more positive outlook on life but it seems some people on here just don't get miserable, or perhaps some are deluded and don't see that there are clearly things wrong.


And before you respond to my post, I am happy with the way we are going forward and overall I am happy with Klopp but I am not happy that basic errors still happen and seemingly Klopp (and his team) have failed to address this.

there seems to be a lot of people on not just here jumping on anyone who is anything but positive about things and im sick of hearing this weekend for example well chelsea dropped points arsenal did this spurs did that so ****ing what im not about to turn into accepting some kind of arsenal 4th place is a success type fan

[RichC]

there seems to be a lot of people on not just here jumping on anyone who is anything but positive about things and im sick of hearing this weekend for example well chelsea dropped points arsenal did this spurs did that so ****ing what im not about to turn into accepting some kind of arsenal 4th place is a success type fan

Nothing about jumping on you its a simple question and fairly simple answer if we could get them in however we can't at the minute so we've got what we have.

Frustration is fine but (and not aimed at you) the swings in the fan base in general is nuts. It's a developing side (probably not quickly enough) playing in a tough competitive league.

FWIW the defence is a weak point still and needs improving but it's not going to happen now until at least Jan.

[Fredo]

there seems to be a lot of people on not just here jumping on anyone who is anything but positive about things and im sick of hearing this weekend for example well chelsea dropped points arsenal did this spurs did that so ****ing what im not about to turn into accepting some kind of arsenal 4th place is a success type fan

If there is anyone 'jumping' on people it's you complaining week in week out how bad this player or that player is and how **** we are defensively. It's weird because we're all mostly in agreement that we make too many mistakes and things need to improve.

It's sensible to give the current lot a bit of time to improve things. If we have no hope that someone like Klopp can change things (who's been nearly the unanimous choice when Rodgers was sacked) then I don't know anyone who could and to be honest, we may as well pack it all in and forget about this club getting back to where we want it all to be.

[Venton]

Christ. The melodrama.

[Fredo]

It's baffling eh. Baffling. I'm baffled.

[calvoboy]

early days and klopp more time? it`s more or less his 3rd season and most certainly his team yet the same weaknesses have not been addressed

First one he took us to our first European final in 9 years. Second one he secured top four and champions league. Given the clear upward trajectory I'd say it's only fair to see where his third season ends up before getting the knives out after two annoying draws and a 10 man defeat? Even if it is impossible to believe that there's not a single Centre-Back in world football that we could have signed that would have been an improvement on Lovren and Klavan...

[Buzzo]

First one he took us to our first European final in 9 years. Second one he secured top four and champions league. Given the clear upward trajectory I'd say it's only fair to see where his third season ends up before getting the knives out after two annoying draws and a 10 man defeat? Even if it is impossible to believe that there's not a single Centre-Back in world football that we could have signed that would have been an improvement on Lovren and Klavan...

Yep, I agree with all of that.

[Fosterbloke]

First one he took us to our first European final in 9 years. Second one he secured top four and champions league. Given the clear upward trajectory I'd say it's only fair to see where his third season ends up before getting the knives out after two annoying draws and a 10 man defeat? Even if it is impossible to believe that there's not a single Centre-Back in world football that we could have signed that would have been an improvement on Lovren and Klavan...

It's Guardiola's and Mourinho's second season. Just saying..

[calvoboy]

It's Guardiola's and Mourinho's second season. Just saying..

I think that it's Pochettino's fourth is the more accurate comparator myself. Just saying...