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    #286
    lots of set pieces bumping his numbers up, seems to move around the Derby team. Seen him up front, wide and in midfield. Think if he was good enough he'd have nailed one position down.

    If he wasn't on our books they'd be no chat to sign him or Grujic. Sell them both unless they are loaned to prem clubs.

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      #287
      Klopp loves that versatility though. Trust him to make the right call either way but he looks his type of player. Just remains to be seen if he's good enough.
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        #288
        suppose

        Origi, Brewster, Wilson, Shaqiri seems too much filler

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          #289
          Originally posted by Liverpool View Post
          lots of set pieces bumping his numbers up, seems to move around the Derby team. Seen him up front, wide and in midfield. Think if he was good enough he'd have nailed one position down.

          If he wasn't on our books they'd be no chat to sign him or Grujic. Sell them both unless they are loaned to prem clubs.
          You have been watching Liverpool this season right? Where does Milner play? Or Mane? Or Henderson?
          Was muß, das muß.

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            #290
            I suspect we might keep him if we don't bring in another forward, he could potentially be a wide option to cover for Mane or Salah, would leave us with the regular front three and Origi, Brewster and Wilson as cover, Personally I'd like a bit more experience but it looks a little more balanced than Sturridge, Origi and Brewster that we had this season. I guess we have Shaqiri as well.
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              #291
              Originally posted by Liverpool View Post
              lots of set pieces bumping his numbers up, seems to move around the Derby team. Seen him up front, wide and in midfield. Think if he was good enough he'd have nailed one position down.

              If he wasn't on our books they'd be no chat to sign him or Grujic. Sell them both unless they are loaned to prem clubs.
              He has to be complete and utter ****e if he is talented enough to play in several positions....

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                #292
                He's doing great, keep him at Derby if they get to the prem and give him a full season playing in the toughest league in the world and see how he goes. Ultimately, we need to see him performing like this is the prem, step up is massive.

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                  #293
                  His stock is high, I think we'll listen to offers

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                    #294
                    Originally posted by danperkins View Post
                    He's doing great, keep him at Derby if they get to the prem and give him a full season playing in the toughest league in the world and see how he goes. Ultimately, we need to see him performing like this is the prem, step up is massive.
                    Unless he has a great pre-season. I agree with this, but we should have an early return clause if he's tearing it up

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                      #295
                      If he stays, he risks stagnating due to lack of games.

                      Not sure going back to derby is the answer as they'll probably struggle if they come up. Someone like Leicester might be better.

                      If does well pre season and stays it would need klopp to use him more, you know the games we are coasting 2 or 3 with 15 to 20 mins left. Take salah, Bobby or mane off. They get a rest and he gets games. It's not something klopp does a lot, often you'll see a lovren or Milner coming on. Maybe to get their win bonus or to keep involved in the squad.

                      Jurgen knows what he's doing so if that works for him great. Not for me to question it!
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                        #296
                        Leicester could challenge top 6 this season, he could make a difference there. Was he at the club under Rodgers?

                        Just make sure he avoids defence minded relegation and mid-table dross like Brighton, Sheffield Utd and Man Utd

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                          #297
                          Originally posted by foresterbloke View Post
                          You have been watching Liverpool this season right? Where does Milner play? Or Mane? Or Henderson?
                          Originally posted by Assassin View Post
                          He has to be complete and utter ****e if he is talented enough to play in several positions....
                          From what I have seen he was moved wide because he couldn't press or influence as well from the middle not because he's talented.

                          As a young player being versatile might get you minutes from the bench for a bit but locking down a position of your own becomes impossible. It's a double edged sword until your estblished.

                          Racking my brains to think of 1 young academy player who has came through the premier league by starting off in several positions then had a proper career. Gerrard? Who else?

                          Look at Milners or Carraghers England careers also. Utility men on the fringes.

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                            #298
                            Originally posted by Norbs View Post
                            Leicester could challenge top 6 this season, he could make a difference there. Was he at the club under Rodgers?

                            Just make sure he avoids defence minded relegation and mid-table dross like Brighton, Sheffield Utd and Man Utd
                            Jones suggests that talks had taken place between Liverpool and Leicester over Wilson heading to the Foxes for a season, but Brendan Rodgers’ arrival has changed that.

                            It would be imperative, if Wilson was still genuinely seen as an option for the following year, that he has a full year of top-flight action under his belt.

                            Rodgers’ refusal to trust young loan players at Celtic has been noted, and now Liverpool are wary of sending their youthful talent to their ex-boss.

                            He also tried to sign Rodgers at Celtic last season, only for the Reds to reject that move—and Rodgers and Michael Edwards also didn’t see eye to eye while together at Liverpool.


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                              #299
                              Originally posted by Liverpool View Post
                              From what I have seen he was moved wide because he couldn't press or influence as well from the middle not because he's talented.

                              As a young player being versatile might get you minutes from the bench for a bit but locking down a position of your own becomes impossible. It's a double edged sword until your estblished.

                              Racking my brains to think of 1 young academy player who has came through the premier league by starting off in several positions then had a proper career. Gerrard? Who else?

                              Look at Milners or Carraghers England careers also. Utility men on the fringes.
                              I havent seen too much of him apart from cameo, goals and assists videos so I cannot comment on him not being able to influence from the middle. One thing is for sure. Without his big contribution of goals and assists Derby wouldnt have made the playoff final. There is a good player in him. Its just needs time to see if there is a great player in him

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                                #300
                                Originally posted by Norbs View Post
                                Leicester could challenge top 6 this season, he could make a difference there. Was he at the club under Rodgers?

                                Just make sure he avoids defence minded relegation and mid-table dross like Brighton, Sheffield Utd and Man Utd
                                Would be great if we use man Utd as a place to give our kids experience. Almost the ulitimate show of how the hieracy is now.
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