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  • Doc_Piptorious
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    Originally posted by Rich View Post
    We shouldn’t over look his contribution in the up turn in form.

    Definitely needs to get games next season.

    His contribution is huge albeit in an understated manner.

    Since his run of games begun the overall number of turnovers against us dropped a hell of a lot and by a massive amount on the LCM side of our team.

    Our ball retention went up then obviously enough and our pass completion rates in the middle third went up.

    He is a massive part as to why TAA gets so much time on the ball in the inverted role as there are less turnovers and the less counters coming from midfield area.

    The only knock I have against Jones and is the same one I have had against him for years is his reliability in terms of missing time through injuries.

    Ability wise he fits a Klopp midfield like a glove. Press resistent, loves to receive a ball when closely marked, rarely misplaces passes, keeps play going and rarely is the cause of a turnover or counter attack. The sort of player that becomes the glue in the middle without ever being overly eyecatching in his play.

    He stays fit next season then he is first back up for the LCM slot imo and genuine competion for whomever the starter is if we buy a new guy for LCM.

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  • Rich
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    We shouldn’t over look his contribution in the up turn in form.

    Definitely needs to get games next season.

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  • Doc_Piptorious
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    Originally posted by SB View Post
    And here we are in the CURTIS JONES thread. Do keep on topic you guys, it’s hard for us old fellas to keep up. ( Jaco I said hard to keep up not keep IT up )


    If you still have the grit to be going after jet skiers with your fishing boat, then I would say there is plenty of bite left in the dog yet.

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  • SB
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    Originally posted by Jaco_Pastorious View Post
    He is talking about Elliot not Jones.
    And here we are in the CURTIS JONES thread. Do keep on topic you guys, it’s hard for us old fellas to keep up. ( Jaco I said hard to keep up not keep IT up )

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  • Doc_Piptorious
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    Originally posted by SB View Post
    He’s HG so he’s going nowhere imo. Might be different if he was a foreigner taking up a valuable OS player spot but he’s not, doesn’t take a big wage & he’s a likeable Scouser

    He is talking about Elliot not Jones.

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  • SB
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    Originally posted by BG1973 View Post
    He hasn't got the physicality to play Bobby's role, and I don't think quite the brain either. He's a very smart player but Bobby sees the game on another level to most players.

    Don't see a long term position with us sadly.
    He’s HG so he’s going nowhere imo. Might be different if he was a foreigner taking up a valuable OS player spot but he’s not, doesn’t take a big wage & he’s a likeable Scouser

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  • BG1973
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    Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
    Elliott is clearly more of an attacking mid than most of our other CM's I think he played wide right when on loan at Blackburn but that was in a 442. I don't think he has the finishing ability or the pace to play effectively in our forward line, for me he is one of the biggest enigmas in terms of where he would fit in the side. A while back I wondered if he could play the Firmino role, but that looks to be Gakpo's now. I think he either needs to improve his attacking play and evolve into a forward or do what Jones has done in his development and settle into a more regular midfield role.
    He hasn't got the physicality to play Bobby's role, and I don't think quite the brain either. He's a very smart player but Bobby sees the game on another level to most players.

    Don't see a long term position with us sadly.

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  • Shaggy
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    Originally posted by Charly View Post
    Elliott is 20


    Apologies - pre-7am and my eyes were still being scraped open.

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  • Charly
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    Elliott is 20

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  • Shaggy
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    22

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  • Charly
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    Remember he is only 20.

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  • Exiled_red
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    Originally posted by Charly View Post
    He is above Henderson, which pretty much places him in the top 3. HE should be a good squaddie next year.

    We will have to work out what to do with Morton and Bajetic. Elliott I reckon should be playing further forward can sub for Salah
    Elliott is clearly more of an attacking mid than most of our other CM's I think he played wide right when on loan at Blackburn but that was in a 442. I don't think he has the finishing ability or the pace to play effectively in our forward line, for me he is one of the biggest enigmas in terms of where he would fit in the side. A while back I wondered if he could play the Firmino role, but that looks to be Gakpo's now. I think he either needs to improve his attacking play and evolve into a forward or do what Jones has done in his development and settle into a more regular midfield role.

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  • Charly
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    He is above Henderson, which pretty much places him in the top 3. HE should be a good squaddie next year.

    We will have to work out what to do with Morton and Bajetic. Elliott I reckon should be playing further forward can sub for Salah

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  • Phoenix07
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    Keep this form up until the end of the season, and he'll be with us next year, with some credit in the bank too. Exactly what we've needed to see from him. Much more confident with the ball, and quicker at releasing and making decisions. Looks stronger, and holding players off too. Hopefully, he'll stay fit!

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  • The_weatherman
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    Given he's home grown, if he's half decent, we have to keep him really. And tbf I feel he's taken his chance lately. He's been very unlucky with injuries but I'd definitely keep him.

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