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  • Buzzo
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    Originally posted by rudedog View Post
    But if you were a professional footballer who was part of a champions league winning squad, its likely that the training/conditioning that necessitates the role would mean you would have a completely different outlook.
    Touché...!

    Who knows where Bob might have gotten to in life with this different outlook.

    In fact, who knows where I..............

    FFS

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  • rudedog
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    Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
    Like I said I have no issue whatsoever with any members of our squad or entourage celebrating and enjoying it. It's a credit to the management team for creating such an atmosphere.

    BUT if I was a sub and didn't get on, I wouldn't be able to dance about let alone a player in the squad that's never played. That's me. I was an unused sub in a final at school one year, I didn't take a medal and just went home. Next year I played and we won and I celebrated properly. I like winning not taking part.
    But if you were a professional footballer who was part of a champions league winning squad, its likely that the training/conditioning that necessitates the role would mean you would have a completely different outlook.

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  • Norbs
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    Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
    Like I said I have no issue whatsoever with any members of our squad or entourage celebrating and enjoying it. It's a credit to the management team for creating such an atmosphere.

    BUT if I was a sub and didn't get on, I wouldn't be able to dance about let alone a player in the squad that's never played. That's me. I was an unused sub in a final at school one year, I didn't take a medal and just went home. Next year I played and we won and I celebrated properly. I like winning not taking part.
    Surely you like the taking part bit and not just the winning bit then

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  • Lecter
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    Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
    Like I said I have no issue whatsoever with any members of our squad or entourage celebrating and enjoying it. It's a credit to the management team for creating such an atmosphere.

    BUT if I was a sub and didn't get on, I wouldn't be able to dance about let alone a player in the squad that's never played. That's me. I was an unused sub in a final at school one year, I didn't take a medal and just went home. Next year I played and we won and I celebrated properly. I like winning not taking part.

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  • BobTheCharmer
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    Like I said I have no issue whatsoever with any members of our squad or entourage celebrating and enjoying it. It's a credit to the management team for creating such an atmosphere.

    BUT if I was a sub and didn't get on, I wouldn't be able to dance about let alone a player in the squad that's never played. That's me. I was an unused sub in a final at school one year, I didn't take a medal and just went home. Next year I played and we won and I celebrated properly. I like winning not taking part.

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  • Zapater
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    Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
    I completely agree.

    I'm just saying if it were me, I couldn't do it.

    3rd keeper is the biggest joke but fair play to klopp like you say.
    I remember a few members of the Italy 06 World Cup winning squad saying that Angelo Peruzzi was integral in their success. Different circumstances, perhaps but it is possible all the same.

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  • Mark79
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    He's completely entitled to enjoy the moment and being in the middle of it all.

    Celebrating with his team mates doesn't mean he's assuming credit.

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  • Buzzo
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    Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
    I completely agree.

    I'm just saying if it were me, I couldn't do it.

    3rd keeper is the biggest joke but fair play to klopp like you say.
    Yeah, I know what you mean also. It’s difficult to say without being part of it. Obviously they are competitors at heart so deep down they will be disappointed not to feature. But the unity and genuine passion shown by them all at full time was amazing to see.

    With Klopp motivating, dripping honey in your ear and offering out hugs I’d imagine even an old misery such as yourself () might even crack a celebratory smile.

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  • SB
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    Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
    I think this is an interesting point.

    Klopp manages to cultivate a fantastic attitude within the squad where even the guys who don’t play that much seem to get on with it and don’t moan (at least to the press or internally). I reckon he has pitched participation as a two year project including last years run to the final and that everyone involved over the two campaigns has been a massive part of it. Personally I don’t have any issues with that. They will know how individually the exact extent they played off the field (massive, Sturridge talking about how providing opposition in training was a big part of the campaign, that had to have come from Klopp).

    Will Lallana take as much pride and regale his kids with stories about his medal to his grandchildren in the same way that say Henderson will? Obviously No. Should he take pride in being part of the club when we won the champions League? 100% yes.

    Squad unity is one thing that we seem to have that a lot of our opponents lack, we should be happy that guys like Lallana and Lovren feel like they helped get us across the line. Maybe he fact that they feel o invested is the reason we are doing so well. Everyone is pushing for excellence. Everyone is part of the project.
    Yep I agree 100% with that. Even Mig looked happy with himself before n after

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  • BobTheCharmer
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    Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
    I think this is an interesting point.

    Klopp manages to cultivate a fantastic attitude within the squad where even the guys who don’t play that much seem to get on with it and don’t moan (at least to the press or internally). I reckon he has pitched participation as a two year project including last years run to the final and that everyone involved over the two campaigns has been a massive part of it. Personally I don’t have any issues with that. They will know how big a pet they played off the field (massive, Sturridge talking about how providing opposition in training was a big part of the campaign, that had to have come from Klopp).

    Will Lallana take as much pride and regale his kids with stories about his medal to his grandchildren in the same way that say Henderson will. No. Should he take pride in being part of the club when we won the champions League? 100% yes.

    Squad unity is one thing that we seem to have that a lot of our opponents lack, we should be happy that guys like Lallana and Lovren feel like they helped get us across the line.
    I completely agree.

    I'm just saying if it were me, I couldn't do it.

    3rd keeper is the biggest joke but fair play to klopp like you say.

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  • Buzzo
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    I think this is an interesting point.

    Klopp manages to cultivate a fantastic attitude within the squad where even the guys who don’t play that much seem to get on with it and don’t moan (at least to the press or internally). I reckon he has pitched participation as a two year project including last years run to the final and that everyone involved over the two campaigns has been a massive part of it. Personally I don’t have any issues with that. They will know how individually the exact extent they played off the field (massive, Sturridge talking about how providing opposition in training was a big part of the campaign, that had to have come from Klopp).

    Will Lallana take as much pride and regale his kids with stories about his medal to his grandchildren in the same way that say Henderson will? Obviously No. Should he take pride in being part of the club when we won the champions League? 100% yes.

    Squad unity is one thing that we seem to have that a lot of our opponents lack, we should be happy that guys like Lallana and Lovren feel like they helped get us across the line. Maybe he fact that they feel o invested is the reason we are doing so well. Everyone is pushing for excellence. Everyone is part of the project.
    Last edited by Buzzo; 25-06-19, 11:38 AM.

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  • Lecter
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    Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
    I'd have felt a fraud celebrating if I didn't really contribute.

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  • BobTheCharmer
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    Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
    **** that's amazing.

    Lallana on the phone on the pitch...."Alright Dad it's me".....****ing ace.
    I'd have felt a fraud celebrating if I didn't really contribute.

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  • Lecter
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    Originally posted by Phoenix07 View Post
    This is why I really wanted Ajax.

    Literally, having a bland, boring club like Spurs in the final spoilt the build-up for me, and also, the prospect of losing against them.

    I'm just glad we got the job done.
    I think we would have annihilated Ajax

    They would have played right into our trap, they would have come out quick and we would have picked them off

    Our midfield would have just rolled over theirs and our attacking players would have had a field day down the flanks where they were incredibly slow

    Spurs for me was a more difficult proposition, it prompted us to be more cautious and careful and the early goal only increased that. That said have watched the match a couple of times and for all this **** about Spurs being the better side they didnt threaten our goal till the 75th minute and we created by far the best chances and opportunities throughout the game

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  • ronanm
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    Originally posted by Assassin View Post
    They qualified for the competion like us and all the other teams. They made it through the group stages after seemingly being all but out. They had some great results over two legs in knock out stages. For me they were worthy opponents and even small teams deserve a break occasionally
    Yes, don't think I have an issue with the opposition either. They had as much a right to be there as we did. Am sure many questioned our place this year and particularly last.

    Most important thing was we won.

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