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    Originally posted by Assassin View Post
    Bollox, the back 4 injuries have nothing to do with our pathetic offensive play
    That's tripe mate, the team builds from the back. Remember how every time a team lumped the ball out last season it was swept up by either virgil or Joe and put the pressure back on? It's a bit of a mess there at the moment. Everyone is being stretched into different positions this year.
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      Originally posted by Fierce View Post
      Is this an in joke I'm not privvy to?

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        Originally posted by Venton View Post
        It's what happens when your system breaks down quickly. These clubs are organised now. City found this last year.
        This is true but it doesn't explain horrible displays most part of the season from Trent Bobby and Mane, Robbo and Gini in recent months nowhere near themselves. Thiago has not made a difference whatsoever either. Those are players fit and available and should be enough to put away Brom Fulham Burnley Brighton Newcastle. We've simply just been poor

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          Originally posted by Assassin View Post
          Not buying into this. Midfield and attack are totally inaffective. The back four have been solid enough, with the exception of Trent Absent Arnold
          The back four have not been solid enough for our system, genuinely. It goes through the whole team. If you're going to press high everyone needs to know what they're doing all the time.
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            I missed Mane off this list.

            That’s about £400m plus worth of talent. If anyone wants to think that’s not a factor then fair enough.

            That’ll do me for tonight.

            Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
            Yeah I mean write the title off.

            Why is top 4 a stretch?

            Are we back to Klopp walking away and the dynasty is over again FFS?

            Alisson
            Van Dijk
            Gomez
            Fabinho
            Matip
            Jota
            Keita

            All missing.

            Hendo

            Playing at Cente back with Phillips.

            Show me a squad that can cope with that.
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              Pretty much every game this season, other teams look fitter and faster than us.
              Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar Wilde

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                Originally posted by Venton View Post
                The back four have not been solid enough for our system, genuinely. It goes through the whole team. If you're going to press high everyone needs to know what they're doing all the time.
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                  Originally posted by Assassin View Post
                  Not buying into this. Midfield and attack are totally inaffective. The back four have been solid enough, with the exception of Trent Absent Arnold
                  Originally posted by Venton View Post
                  That's tripe mate, the team builds from the back. Remember how every time a team lumped the ball out last season it was swept up by either virgil or Joe and put the pressure back on? It's a bit of a mess there at the moment. Everyone is being stretched into different positions this year.
                  Yeah i agree with Joe G( or Matip) & VVD n the ball we are so much a better side; last 15 we were passing to phillips 30 yrds from their goal & he was like WTF !!! put our proper CB's in that position & space would open up

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                    Let's just finish in the top 4 and build again next season.

                    Hopefully crowds will be back, our defence will be better and our midfield will have the guile and bite it needs.
                    Was muß, das muß.

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                      Originally posted by danperkins View Post
                      This is true but it doesn't explain horrible displays most part of the season from Trent Bobby and Mane, Robbo and Gini in recent months nowhere near themselves. Thiago has not made a difference whatsoever either. Those are players fit and available and should be enough to put away Brom Fulham Burnley Brighton Newcastle. We've simply just been poor
                      Klopp's system is a proper system, it relies on the whole team being drilled. It's all off kilter at the moment. I know what you're saying but we're not a free flowing team relying on everyone doing what they want.

                      It also doesn't mean we weren't **** tonight.
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                        Originally posted by Venton View Post
                        Klopp's system is a proper system, it relies on the whole team being drilled. It's all off kilter at the moment. I know what you're saying but we're not a free flowing team relying on everyone doing what they want.

                        It also doesn't mean we weren't **** tonight.
                        absolutely, it does feel that once a cog is missing from the 11 never might 5 or 6, things start to break down. Imo though there should be a plan B and we still have enough top class players to put likes of Brighton etc away. The lads just haven't played well most of the season. Since we win the league there has been a general drop off.

                        We do look stale

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                          Originally posted by Venton View Post
                          Klopp's system is a proper system, it relies on the whole team being drilled. It's all off kilter at the moment. I know what you're saying but we're not a free flowing team relying on everyone doing what they want.

                          It also doesn't mean we weren't **** tonight.
                          We were 100% ****e tonight. But there are plenty of mitigating factors.
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                            Of course injuries have ****ed us. 100%.

                            But whatever team we put out should be able to score or test the keeper against the likes of Brighton and Burnley. We are doing the same **** every home game.

                            Klopp needs to change the system to try and get something out of what we have left. Playing Gini & Milner at home? It's like when he used to play hendo, milner and gini. It's dull, uninspiring and safe.

                            To be fair his options look few but letting taki go? Bloke started against Palace and scored. Then didn't get a kick. What the actual ****? It's bizarre.

                            It's embarrassing.
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                              Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
                              Yeah I mean write the title off.

                              Why is top 4 a stretch?

                              Are we back to Klopp walking away and the dynasty is over again FFS?

                              Alisson
                              Van Dijk
                              Gomez
                              Fabinho
                              Matip
                              Jota
                              Keita

                              All missing.

                              Hendo

                              Playing at Cente back with Phillips.

                              Show me a squad that can cope with that.
                              I think you answered your own question.
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                                Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
                                I think you answered your own question.
                                I think we are all loosely agreeing then?

                                It’s just frustrating. I don’t need football being a stress right now FFs
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