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    Exactly. Many times in life you don't need a new rule until you need a new rule. It would have been entirely appropriate to just award a goal after the fact in the moment. Nobody would have argued. Stop play. Explain to the managers. Fire it up on the screens for the fans to understand and award a goal. Easy peasy.

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      Is the audio being released to the public, or just released to Liverpool, and it is to be kept out of mainstream media?

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        Originally posted by Scratch View Post
        Is the audio being released to the public, or just released to Liverpool, and it is to be kept out of mainstream media?
        They have already this season released some audio publicly. I think Howard Webb talked it through on Sky Sports? Obviously that was an example they were comfortable releasing/talking through. They calculated it would make them look good overall.

        This one clear is not going to!

        Howard Webb is basically a PR manager, and this is all about damage limitation, not justice/truth.

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          Here it is:

          [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrmZNz4qtoI"]REVEALED! Never-heard before VAR audio on overturned Newcastle penalty! 📺 - YouTube[/ame]

          Cherry pick one where they do a really nice, calm, thorough job and come to the correct decision.

          We will see the same? Place your bets

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            Listen to the amount of communication in that short clip.
            Constantly talking to one another.
            If that's their standard process then what the actual **** were they doing on Saturday?

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              And the VVD red card one:

              [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QndBrhE9bJk"]Match Officials Mic'd Up! Listen to VAR discussion on Virgil van Dijk's Red Card vs Newcastle! - YouTube[/ame]

              Again they felt it suited them to release this. A PR exercise.

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                They arnt though. Its the VAR ref and assistant VAR. They only speak to the onfield Ref when a decision needs to be made. Part of the problem I think.
                *Except Michael, who died.

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                  There has been a couple more recent ones, most recently 3 weeks ago. So this is something they are happy to do, when it suits them.

                  The Onana one vs Wolves which definitely should have been a pen, is the only controversial example I can see they've done where they got it wrong.

                  It is not nearly as damaging as this one would be though.
                  Last edited by Pablo; 03-10-23, 11:28 AM.

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                    Originally posted by Scratch View Post
                    Is the audio being released to the public, or just released to Liverpool, and it is to be kept out of mainstream media?
                    [ame]https://twitter.com/MiguelDelaney/status/1709152986302124172[/ame]
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                      The next Match Officials Mic'd Up show is due out on Monday.
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                        The whole notion of a Match Officials Mic'd up show is laughable.

                        I wonder if they won't want the in game discussions between officials aired because they want to monetise them
                        Last edited by spud_gun; 03-10-23, 11:54 AM.

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                          [ame]https://twitter.com/MelissaReddy_/status/1709158243786792987[/ame]
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                            [ame]https://twitter.com/neiljonesgoal/status/1709176488824639915[/ame]
                            Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                              Is it the original or the Howard Webb remix?
                              The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                                Originally posted by RichC View Post
                                Working away on the explanation of why it went so wrong I would assume.

                                It stinks to be honest, clearly being managed by PR to cause the least amount of damage.
                                Given our statement, both PR and Legal PGMOL teams will be vetting anything that is released.
                                We are here for a good time not a long time....

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