Toulouse (A) Europa League

[Mark79]

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[Norbs]

The current rule states that it isn’t a handball offence if it deflects off another part of the player’s body onto the arm. It went off Mac Allister’s chest onto his arm.

That was my thinking too, and it didn't assist him really

[SB]

I’ll never understand this apologist ‘we didn’t deserve anything anyway’ attitude.

Scraping results from bad performances is part of the game.

Playing badly doesn’t excuse arbitrary officiating.

[Kenneth]

That was my thinking too, and it didn't assist him really

It did stop the ball going passed him.

[Kenneth]

https://twitter.com/dalejohnsonespn/...09372952772959

Arms close to body? I guess in that at they were attacked to his body, but they were perpendicular to his body

[Mark79]

Arms close to body? I guess in that at they were attacked to his body, but they were perpendicular to his body

They’re not perpendicular though, are they? Not literally.
They’re in a natural position.

Aside from that being one thing from a list of 5

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[Kenneth]

Okay, his right arm is at about 70 degrees rather than 90, definitely not close to his body. And it’s below the armpit so low enough on the arm to be handball.

HANDLING THE BALL
For the purposes of determining handball offences, the upper boundary of the arm is in line with the bottom of the armpit
https://www.thefa.com/football-rules...20an%20offence.

The VAR video: https://dubz.live/mc/0e2815


Anyway, it was poor control, he should have been able to bring the ball under control without the involvement of an arm.

[Mark79]

His arm could be 30 degrees, practically by his side, the ball would touch some part it because of the direction it takes from the deflection.

I think he’s saying he’s withdrawing his arm because the ball was travelling upwards and Mac moves his arm away from it, not towards it.

[Fosterbloke]

Just saw the highlights - embarrassing. I guess we can look forward to a 3-0 tonking from Brentford next..

[Exiled_red]

I'm not too bothered about the result, the thing that annoys me about the disallowed goal is that now no one knows or understands the rules, guidance etc and the interpretation is wildly inconsistent. I feel if that incident happens in the next round of games you could get the opposite decision and people will happily justify it.

It very much feels like the rules/interpretation are made up on the spot which is no good for anyone involved in the game and makes it so easy for officials to manipulate the outcome of games (I am not saying that is what happened here).

For me I don't think it should be handball because it bounces off his chest onto the arm, but the long time between the incident and the goal is really re-refereeing the game. If the ref wanted to give handball straightaway on the pitch, I wouldn't agree with it but the play would have developed and it would have been a minor frustration, going back for such a minor incident seems silly especially when you can't go back a similar amount of time after a restart yo give the correct decision as we saw at Spurs a few weeks back.
The other thing I think of and I know it was a few years back and a different competition but we had a game against Man Utd where they scored after fouling one of our players in the build up and we were told it was too far back in play to justify disallowing the goal.

In short VAR is a farce.

[peterbread]

Didn’t the ref blow the whistle and point to the centre circle after the VAR check first then change his mind and go to the screen. What happened there? Can he give it after a VAR check and then change his mind again. Very confusing and frustrating.

[Fosterbloke]

The VAR thing is irrelevant, the issue is we were cut open and beaten by a poor team twice in a row.

[Venton]

I'm surprised there's been so much chat about the VAR, which I expect to be ****. I'm much more bothered about our performance and the result. We were garbage.

[Scratch]

With the VAR, do they just show the referee the incident (ie handball) or do they then run on play so so he can see for himself if it is one continuous phase of play or not?

[danperkins]

We were absolutely **** alright, no getting around that.