Arne Slot

[Sus]

So Tap In reports the exact same thing that was said about a month ago about how Enrique would be signing a new contract once the season ended.


Lump on Inzaghi at 12/, folks.

Hmm let's see - am concerned our brains trust are doubling down on Slot to show they are the smartest people in the room

[Doc_Piptorious]

Hmm let's see - am concerned our brains trust are doubling down on Slot to show they are the smartest people in the room

Or they are the smartest in the room and have Inzaghi lined up

[SB]

Hmm let's see - am concerned our brains trust are doubling down on Slot to show they are the smartest people in the room

But for that to happen Slot would need to turn this **** fight around can’t see that happening personally

[Scratch]

But for that to happen Slot would need to turn this **** fight around can’t see that happening personally

Unless he's being undermined from within by popular players, who may bear grudges, and who may be leaving anyway...

[Bloodraven]

I cant think of an example where a manager has been able to turn something like this around.

[5europeancups]

I personally think that the silence from the Liverpool management is deafening and that Liverpool are doing everything to ensure that Slot gets an honourable exit, which he deserves after winning the league last year.

He has been found out this year unfortunately and I am pretty sure Liverpool have a plan. These guys are businessmen and have proven to be ruthless when need be.

I think that Salah's comments were dishonourable towards Arne Slot and it is certainly not his role to make statements like this. He has stopped trying since he signed his contract.

I think that the club should announce Slot is leaving too before the game on Saturday in order to mitigate the awkwardness around the statement of Salah and so he can too receive a well deserved send off.

He is a good honest guy, but this job has found him out a bit.

[peterbread]

Or they are the smartest in the room and have Inzaghi lined up

Looks like he’s leaving Al Hilal. Apparently he’s been learning English and doesn’t want to coach in Italy again.

[Doc_Piptorious]

I personally think that the silence from the Liverpool management is deafening and that Liverpool are doing everything to ensure that Slot gets an honourable exit, which he deserves after winning the league last year.

He has been found out this year unfortunately and I am pretty sure Liverpool have a plan. These guys are businessmen and have proven to be ruthless when need be.

I think that Salah's comments were dishonourable towards Arne Slot and it is certainly not his role to make statements like this. He has stopped trying since he signed his contract.

I think that the club should announce Slot is leaving too before the game on Saturday in order to mitigate the awkwardness around the statement of Salah and so he can too receive a well deserved send off.

He is a good honest guy, but this job has found him out a bit.

Very fair post and I hope it is the case.

[The_weatherman]

I personally think that the silence from the Liverpool management is deafening and that Liverpool are doing everything to ensure that Slot gets an honourable exit, which he deserves after winning the league last year.

He has been found out this year unfortunately and I am pretty sure Liverpool have a plan. These guys are businessmen and have proven to be ruthless when need be.

I think that Salah's comments were dishonourable towards Arne Slot and it is certainly not his role to make statements like this. He has stopped trying since he signed his contract.

I think that the club should announce Slot is leaving too before the game on Saturday in order to mitigate the awkwardness around the statement of Salah and so he can too receive a well deserved send off.

He is a good honest guy, but this job has found him out a bit.

The thing is, everything points to Liverpool keeping faith with Slot next season too, that's the message we're getting and if the players are getting that message too, I think it's OK for Salah or the players to say something.

If, FSG are keeping Slot, having lost the dressing room and the fan support as well, it'd be a huge mistake, no-one can recover that, impossible.

So, I agree, the club should announce him leaving to try and lift some of the toxicity, and let us say goodbye to him as well, otherwise the vitriol will just keep on escalating among fans and players, and probably put off new signings.

[The_weatherman]

Says who though?

A bunch of guys posting on social media saying they have inside info?


The only people that know for sure are those at the club and Alonso and his people. For all we know we approached him and he was not interested or wanted too big a salary or whatever.

All just as likely as us not having tested the waters at all.


Makes no difference now either way. He chose Chelsea as the club he wants to go to, so that's that. All we can be hoping for is that whoever is in charge of Liverpool next season does a hell of a lot better than how things went this season.

That's why I said, it seems, but if Liverpool approached him it would've leaked for sure. I don't think he chose Chelsea over Liverpool, I think he knew he wasn't going to get the Liverpool job.

[memzey]

It's been a while since I posted on this thread. That was just before the Spurs game when I was fully supportive of Arne Slot, with the odd proviso here and there, but Slot-in nonetheless. Since then things have been interesting in an unpleasant and traumatic sort of way. Barring my lamentations on this place closing down, I haven't really posted at all since then. Let me explain why.

Firstly, I found the draw with Spurs sickening in a way I hadn't expected. This was partly due to my absolute expectation that we would beat them soundly but also, to some extent, due to the limp nature of the performance. My immediate and instinctive reaction was to conclude that Slot's time was up. That may seem somewhat reactionary from someone who had defended Slot, literally up until that day, but a realisation was dawning and I couldn't deny it.

Still, I thought I'd let the dust settle on that result, in order to properly reflect, before expressing my thoughts.

Then came the thrashing of Galatasaray, an uplifting performance and emphatic result. Mood lifted but, again, the need to reflect in order to truly grasp what it actually means in the grand scheme of things.

Since then things have gone from bad to worse, pockmarked with the occasional win, here and there, but no evidence that the underlying issues have been or indeed can be addressed by the current staff. Perks called it 100% right when he said it won't be complete capitulation rather, it would be mixed and unsatisfying in terms of results and performances. That's exactly what is unfolding before us.

More consequentially than that we are now seeing, beyond any reasonable doubt, that Slot is a considerable factor in our travails. He is not doing the best he can with an imbalanced squad. He is no longer juggling availability and making the correct, although suboptimal, calls in games. He has demonstrated that, far from adding to the sum of the squad's parts, he is a detraction and we are now worse for him being in situ. The playing staff seem to have settled on this understanding as well, which means he is toast. Ignore whatever noises of support are coming out of the club. IMHO he will be gone before the first game of next season. This seems inevitable to me.

I didn't enjoy writing any of the above. It was hard and unpleasant. Not because I've had to reassess my position, which is a healthy and positive thing to do. I base my position on the facts at hand so when they change I adapt. My support for Slot was always conditional and never absolute. That he failed to meet the conditions is not in doubt. No, it's due to the sense of impending turmoil that we are about to enter into. While I acknowledge a new manager "bounce" can be a thing, I do not share the unqualified optimism that some have about this change. We really must get this right and, at the same time, really must address problems in the squad. By sacking the coach we will add, to the existing lack of balance, the potential problem of divorced accountability within the squad. This can destroy a team's chances of success, and is very, very difficult to fix. Let's hope the characters we have in the team are such that we avoid that. We also have to pick and land exactly the right man which is a huge challenge and risk. The risk of doing nothing and sticking with Slot however, is now higher than the risk of making a change, so I'm certain the club will act.

This brings us to the question of who? This is all speculative and driven by personal biases/preferences, so take it as you will.

I've previously stated my preference for Nagelsmann who I still think fits the bill better than any realistic alternative. That he won't be able to join until after the World Cup is a consideration though, and that might be enough to sink him. We should not understate how important a strong start to 26/27 is for us. I think a new manager will need maximum time in pre-season with the squad to get a good start. I'm not sure whether his other commitments make that realistic. I just don't know on that one but I'd be delighted with him as the appointee.

Inzaghi has a lot going for him, including proven title winning ability with Inter and a style of play that would likely translate well to our league. He's at a good age with good experience and is someone I could get on board with. He will need to speak better English though but I suspect he will pick that up.

I also like Seb Hoeness who seems a good prospect. It would be a very Slot-like appointment in a way, or perhaps Brendog-like if things go South. He seems a good cultural and footballing fit for us and has had relative success at his level. I don't know how well he will adapt to managing a mega-club like LFC though, or whether he has what it takes to be the boss of so many big name players. I do like the cut of his jib which, I suppose, counts for something.

The same can also be said about Andoni Iraola although I'm even less convinced that he will succeed at our club. I could be way out of bounds on this but I don't think he will hit that level in the EPL. He may well do so in Spain however. We will see I suppose.

Luis Enrique's name was seen as a bit of a fantasy by many up until a week or so ago but now seems to be increasingly possible. Right up there with Nagelsmann to my mind, perhaps higher in fact. A top human being and world class coach. There will be no complaints from me if that appointment is made, none whatsoever. This still seems the least likely appointment to me, although Pep leaving City might shake things up a bit to make it more possible (assuming Enrique doesn't go there).

As an aside, I also want to say that I am glad we didn't get Xabi. I'm certain he isn't the right fit for us. The fact that he took the job at Chelsea feels like a vindication of that although some might see it differently. I do not want to see turgid 5 at the back football at Liverpool and I don't apologise for that.

The other really big question is what, if anything, we should do at director level. A year ago I thought we were the best run club in the world with the right people in the right positions all the way up the pyramid. I am less convinced of this now and would support a fresh look at at the DoF position at least. I have no idea who could come in and do better but Hughes doesn't seem to have covered himself in glory to put it mildly. Any suggestions on who should come in would be received warmly.

Ok, that's it for this brain dump from me. Apologies to all that read through this wall of text! I hope we come out the other side of this in good shape.

[Cerbie]

Great post memzey, very considered and well thought out.

Thanks for sharing.

Where's the like button when you need it??

[Charly]

I said on the other thread, the salah post was a direct communication between the players and the owners.

The "noise" was all about Slot staying, and I dont think the players found that situation tollerable

Right or wrong, the fact remains Slot has lost the entire squad.

There is also a good chance they were always going to replace him but wanted not to undermine Slot, but in doing to unsettled the squad.

Its fine if its one or two players but they have lost the whole squad and the fanbase. Slots position isno longer tenable either way

[kingfunk]

I’m expecting an explosive post match interview from Slot on Sunday.

[Doc_Piptorious]

It's been a while since I posted on this thread. That was just before the Spurs game when I was fully supportive of Arne Slot, with the odd proviso here and there, but Slot-in nonetheless. Since then things have been interesting in an unpleasant and traumatic sort of way. Barring my lamentations on this place closing down, I haven't really posted at all since then. Let me explain why.

Firstly, I found the draw with Spurs sickening in a way I hadn't expected. This was partly due to my absolute expectation that we would beat them soundly but also, to some extent, due to the limp nature of the performance. My immediate and instinctive reaction was to conclude that Slot's time was up. That may seem somewhat reactionary from someone who had defended Slot, literally up until that day, but a realisation was dawning and I couldn't deny it.

Still, I thought I'd let the dust settle on that result, in order to properly reflect, before expressing my thoughts.

Then came the thrashing of Galatasaray, an uplifting performance and emphatic result. Mood lifted but, again, the need to reflect in order to truly grasp what it actually means in the grand scheme of things.

Since then things have gone from bad to worse, pockmarked with the occasional win, here and there, but no evidence that the underlying issues have been or indeed can be addressed by the current staff. Perks called in 100% right when he said it won't be complete capitulation rather, it would be mixed and unsatisfying in terms of results and performances. That's exactly what is unfolding before us.

More consequentially than that we are now seeing, beyond any reasonable doubt, that Slot is a considerable factor in our travails. He is not doing the best he can with an imbalanced squad. He is no longer juggling availability and making the correct, although suboptimal, calls in games. He has demonstrated that, far from adding to the sum of the squad's parts, he is a detraction and we are now worse for him being in situ. The playing staff seem to have settled on this understanding as well, which means he is toast. Ignore whatever noises of support are coming out of the club. IMHO he will be gone before the first game of next season. This seems inevitable to me.

I didn't enjoy writing any of the above. It was hard and unpleasant. Not because I've had to reassess my position, which is a healthy and positive thing to do. I base my position on the facts at hand so when they change I adapt. My support for Slot was always conditional and never absolute. That he failed to meet the conditions is not in doubt. No, it's due to the sense of impending turmoil that we are about to enter into. While I acknowledge a new manager "bounce" can be a thing, I do not share the unqualified optimism that some have about this change. We really must get this right and, at the same time, really must address problems in the squad. By sacking the coach we will add, to the existing lack of balance, the potential problem of divorced accountability within the squad. This can destroy a team's chances of success, and is very, very difficult to fix. Let's hope the characters we have in the team are such that we avoid that. We also have to pick and land exactly the right man which is a huge challenge and risk. The risks of doing nothing and sticking with Slot however, are now higher making a change, so I'm certain the club will act.

This brings us to the question of who? This is all speculative and driven by personal biases/preferences, so take it as you will.

I've previously stated my preference for Nagelsmann who I still think fits the bill better than any realistic alternative. That he won't be able to join until after the World Cup is a consideration though, and that might be enough to sink him. We should not understate how important a strong start to 26/27 is for us. I think a new manager will need maximum time in pre-season with the squad to get a good start. I'm not sure whether his other commitments make that realistic. I just don't know on that one but I'd be delighted with him as the appointee.

Inzaghi has a lot going for him, including proven title winning ability with Inter and a style of play that would likely translate well to our league. He's at a good age with good experience and is someone I could get on board with. He will need to speak better English though but I suspect he will pick that up.

I also like Seb Hoeness who seems a good prospect. It would be a very Slot-like appointment in a way, or perhaps Brendog-like if things go South. He seems a good cultural and footballing fit for us and has had relative success at his level. I don't know how well he will adapt to managing a mega-club like LFC though, or whether he has what it takes to be the boss of so many big name players. I do like the cut of his jib which, I suppose, counts for something.

The same can also be said about Andoni Iraola although I'm even less convinced that he will succeed at our club. I could be way out of bounds on this but I don't think he will hit that level in the EPL. He may well do so in Spain however. We will see I suppose.

Luis Enrique's name was seen as a bit of a fantasy by many up until a week or so ago but now seems to be increasingly possible. Right up there with Nagelsmann to my mind, perhaps higher in fact. A top human being and world class coach. There will be no complaints from me if that appointment is made, none whatsoever. This still seems the least likely appointment to me, although Pep leaving City might shake things up a bit to make it more possible (assuming Enrique doesn't go there).

As an aside, I also want to say that I am glad we didn't get Xabi. I'm certain he isn't the right fit for us. The fact that he took the job at Chelsea feels like a vindication of that although some might see it differently. I do not want to see turgid 5 at the back football at Liverpool and I don't apologise for that.

The other really big question is what, if anything, we should do at director level. A year ago I thought we were the best run club in the world with the right people in the right positions all the way up the pyramid. I am less convinced of this now and would support a fresh look at at the DoF position at least. I have no idea who could come in and do better but Hughes doesn't seem to have covered himself in glory to put it mildly. Any suggestions on who should come in would be received warmly.

Ok, that's it for this brain dump from me. Apologies to all that read through this wall of text! I hope we come out the other side of this in good shape.

Just on that highlighted bit. He started learning English last year. Not sure if it was the autumn or when exactly, but he gave an interview about how he had begun english lessons and that he had also put his children into an American (English speaking) school over there as well so that they would pick up the language.



Very enjoyable post btw. Well enjoyable in that it was a great read and well reasoned, not great in that you ended up feeling how you did.