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[Mark79]

I don't understand the logic. How does a back 3 help fit Wirtz in?

It's also one of our weakest positions cover wise, so it would surely be an odd call to overoald there.

Or is it nothing to do with Wirtz or the CB's, but because we signed two attacking FB's?

It’s still 2 starting CBs if it’s the DM dropping back to be the 3rd. Again only in possession. Can still be a back 4 out of possession.

[RedReet]

It’s still 2 starting CBs if it’s the DM dropping back to be the 3rd. Again only in possession. Can still be a back 4 out of possession.

I meant Kenneth and Buzzo both suggesting we could switch to 3 CB's.

[BootRoom]

I've got everything crossed for this dude. Huge pressure to deliver. Looking at the pics of his medical tests, there's hardly anything of him.

[BG1973]

He's 71kg and 5.10.

Bellingham 75kg and 6.1

Mane 69kg

Not sure why his physicality keeps being mentioned. He's typical weight for a forward

[Charly]

He's 71kg and 5.10.

Bellingham 75kg and 6.1

Mane 69kg

Not sure why his physicality keeps being mentioned. He's typical weight for a forward

because its possible he will be in the midfield if we are chasing a striker

[peterbread]

Wasn’t one of the reason they didn’t follow through with Amorim was because of the back 3 and the money it would take to rebuild.

The only time I’d see it being used is like it was this past season when we need a goal or go down to 10 men. Let Gravenberch drop in to play a CB/DM role with two fullbacks and VVD.

It’s a bit different if it’s Gravenberch dropping in when we have the ball allowing the fullbacks to get further forward but I don’t see a back 3 being used as a set formation. But as an interchangeable option during games then yes. Slot has shown he’s very flexible and some of the players we are signing can play multiple positions so there is plenty of flexibility to change during games. I don’t know if it’s separate from the 9 they want to sign but there is also talk of a young versatile attacking play to cover all three positions in attack.

[RedReet]

Wasn’t one of the reason they didn’t follow through with Amorim was because of the back 3 and the money it would take to rebuild.

The only time I’d see it being used is like it was this past season when we need a goal or go down to 10 men. Let Gravenberch drop in to play a CB/DM role with two fullbacks and VVD.

It’s a bit different if it’s Gravenberch dropping in when we have the ball allowing the fullbacks to get further forward but I don’t see a back 3 being used as a set formation. But as an interchangeable option during games then yes. Slot has shown he’s very flexible and some of the players we are signing can play multiple positions so there is plenty of flexibility to change during games. I don’t know if it’s separate from the 9 they want to sign but there is also talk of a young versatile attacking play to cover all three positions in attack.

Your first line was also my first thought.

[rudedog]

That’s completely different though - Amorim has a very fixed approach to his formation.

What we’ve seen from Slot is far more flexibility/adaptability

If we do play 3 at the back, i doubt we will use 3 CBs. Like Mark has already mentioned above, we’ve already seen Slot switch to a back 3 with Gravenberch dropping back to be the third CB. This is a much more flexible approach that lets us switch formation quickly.

Klopp used to use a similar system when he used Robbo and Trent high up the pitch, his implementation usually had one of the centre mids dropping back to cover which ever full back was out of position.

[spud_gun]

Agreed, we won't play 3 CBs.

Virg and Konate will be our first choice centre backs though that may be fluid depending on who we sign and Konate's contract negotiations

Bradley/Frimpong will split right back duties
Frimpong will also play right wing with Salah either away at Afcon or perhaps Slot wants to see what Mo can offer playing in the centre.

Kerkerez will play left back with one of Robbo / Timi deputising as and when needed

[BG1973]

Messi 67kg
Coutinho 68kg
Mac Allister 72kg

Wirtz will be AM if he plays midfield.

Nothing to worry about.

[RedReet]

That’s completely different though - Amorim has a very fixed approach to his formation.

What we’ve seen from Slot is far more flexibility/adaptability

If we do play 3 at the back, i doubt we will use 3 CBs. Like Mark has already mentioned above, we’ve already seen Slot switch to a back 3 with Gravenberch dropping back to be the third CB. This is a much more flexible approach that lets us switch formation quickly.

Klopp used to use a similar system when he used Robbo and Trent high up the pitch, his implementation usually had one of the centre mids dropping back to cover which ever full back was out of position.

I don't disagree, but I'm fairly sure Kenneth and Buzzo were both suggesting playing 3 CB's, which was how this discussion started.

Although, not to be pedantic, if we did have a system with Grav dropping back alongside the CB's to cover the FB's, I'm still not sure I would consider that playing 3 at the back. Plus, I'd be a bit surprised to see that set up after his comments about him wanting to contribute more going forward next year.

[peterbread]

That’s completely different though - Amorim has a very fixed approach to his formation.

What we’ve seen from Slot is far more flexibility/adaptability

If we do play 3 at the back, i doubt we will use 3 CBs. Like Mark has already mentioned above, we’ve already seen Slot switch to a back 3 with Gravenberch dropping back to be the third CB. This is a much more flexible approach that lets us switch formation quickly.

Klopp used to use a similar system when he used Robbo and Trent high up the pitch, his implementation usually had one of the centre mids dropping back to cover which ever full back was out of position.

That’s exactly what I said. Slot is flexible and we will see changes in game but as a starting system it is likely to always be 4 at the back. I mentioned Gravenberch dropping in between when we have the ball and that when we’ve needed to he’s played as CB/DM when chasing the game and a CB was taken off. I was talking about a starting a game with 3 at the back which I doubt we will see.

I like how flexible Slot is it is one of his best qualities and was makes him so different and better than a lot of these modern manager who are so rigid in their thinking and even when chasing games won’t out two up but will swap like for like.

[little dave hedgehog]

Apologies if this has been discussed to death, but is it conceivable that we play a back 3? Our purchases look like it, but it's too big a change, isn't it? Or do we stick Wirtz in as a false 9 and abandon the number 9?

you'd have to think if we would be playing 3 at the back we'd be hanging on to quansah. even if we don't rate him, selling now risks being back in the situation with robbie keane and gareth barry. surely you buy before you sell.

[Mark79]

you'd have to think if we would be playing 3 at the back we'd be hanging on to quansah. even if we don't rate him, selling now risks being back in the situation with robbie keane and gareth barry. surely you buy before you sell.

I don’t think we’re going wholesale 3 at the back, but either way, if Quansah is going then I think we’ve already got a deal for a replacement CB ready to go.
It’s looking like it’s Marc Guehi.

[little dave hedgehog]

I don’t think we’re going wholesale 3 at the back, but either way, if Quansah is going then I think we’ve already got a deal for a replacement CB ready to go.
It’s looking like it’s Marc Guehi.

that still only gives us 4 senior players for 3 spots, while discarding a promising young academy graduate. i'm not commenting one way or the other on the transfer, but it doesn't seem to add up to playing with more centre backs to me. my 2p.