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[Doc_Piptorious]

Loads of players were slipping cos of the conditions that night, so I wonder if the slippery surface had more to do with it?

Is very possible.

[The_weatherman]

Can be some many things, his career is not over. After my injury I went and got some insoles because my tendons were apparently not aligned properly, they are tilt a little bit so they are more likely to be damaged, just as design flaw. He'll get top treatment and I predict he'll be back seeing minutes this year.

[Mark79]

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Hugo Ekitike didn’t tear his Achilles on a freak play.

He tore it on his 10th sprint.

29 mins into a Champions League quarter final. Chasing the game. High pressure. High intent.
That’s the detail that matters.

Because injuries like this are rarely about one action.
They’re about whether the player has been prepared to repeat that action enough times.

We don't coach our players to play with high intensity anymore. We don't train them for it either.

So when we ask them to suddenly start doing a load of high intensity sprints for a particular game, they get injured.

[Sus]

There's something related to genetics re achilles injuries, which sounds random but is true. If you take a genetic test like Circle DNA, they can pinpoint if you have a risk of tearing your achilles.

So, I imagine this is the case here, that he was always more likely to injure it at some point. It's a bad injury, but one that is manageable nowadays, not dissimilar to ACLs

[Patricks_Berger]

It’s not just the minutes, it’s the intensity of the games in the PL, the physicality of the defenders, 2 games a week, no Christmas break. At 23 he’s not physically peaked. Leading the line solo for Liverpool across all comps was a massive step up in physical demands for him.

No coincidence he’s tailed off at the season progressed.

[Charly]

LfC should just change from a football club to tiddlywinks instead.

Gomez would probably still get injured though...

[The_weatherman]

There's something related to genetics re achilles injuries, which sounds random but is true. If you take a genetic test like Circle DNA, they can pinpoint if you have a risk of tearing your achilles.

So, I imagine this is the case here, that he was always more likely to injure it at some point. It's a bad injury, but one that is manageable nowadays, not dissimilar to ACLs

I've been wanting Slot out since last year, but this isn't on him in any shape or form IMO. Loads of other factors at play here, when someone young like that tears the tendon, it's something else behind it.

[Doc_Piptorious]

https://twitter.com/i/status/2044463857372971103



We don't coach our players to play with high intensity anymore. We don't train them for it either.

So when we ask them to suddenly start doing a load of high intensity sprints for a particular game, they get injured.

So when we had players doing their ACLs and similar when Klopp was the coach, and with a lot of high intensity training going in during that era, what was the excuse then for it? Was it just bad luck then because the manager was liked or was it down to Klopp's preferred style of training being too intensive?


A person can of course get an Achilles tendon rupture from a one and done movement, slip, or turn with no prior underlying issues or causes. Especially on a wet surface.

A person can be prone to having it happening after transitioning from low level training to high intensity training.

A person can get it if they have a genetic weakness in the calf muscles and/or of said muscles were not warmed up properly prior to the game. Be it in the pre game warm up or strengthened through the repetition in training (though that latter repetition in training still cannot rule out a freak misstep or slip from happening) .

There are just far too many variables at play to just ignore the ones that do not suit a particular arguement.

Wet surface and a player trying hard. Any one of the options could be the true answer as to why it happened to that player on that surface, but what really matters now is that it happened and that the player gets the right care and recovery period.



Oh yeah almost forgot....




Good job, buddy.

[Mark79]

So when we had players doing their ACLs and similar when Klopp was the coach, and with a lot of high intensity training going in during that era, what was the excuse then for it? Was it just bad luck then because the manager was liked or was it down to Klopp's preferred style of training being too intensive?


A person can of course get an Achilles tendon rupture from a one and done movement, slip, or turn with no prior underlying issues or causes. Especially on a wet surface.

A person can be prone to having it happening after transitioning from low level training to high intensity training.

A person can get it if they have a genetic weakness in the calf muscles and/or of said muscles were not warmed up properly prior to the game. Be it in the pre game warm up or strengthened through the repetition in training (though that latter repetition in training still cannot rule out a freak misstep or slip from happening) .

There are just far too many variables at play to just ignore the ones that do not suit a particular arguement.

Wet surface and a player trying hard. Any one of the options could be the true answer as to why it happened to that player on that surface, but what really matters now is that it happened and that the player gets the right care and recovery period.



Oh yeah almost forgot....




Good job, buddy.

Overdoing something can be as much as a problem as undergoing it.

I never said it was perfect under Klopp.


Liverpool had an epidemic of hamstring injuries in Klopp's early days. Because the players weren't conditioned to Klopp's intensive style. They definitely reduced the instances of them, but yes muscle injures happened to over the course of Klopp's tenure.

It's impossible to completely negate injuries when you're playing 50-60 intensive games a season. You can only take care to be as well prepared as you can be and avoid risk as much as possible.

I think the diagnosis i posted is a much more convincing explanation than "well actually these things can just happen and it was very slippy".

But yeah, go with whatever makes sense to you.

[Doc_Piptorious]

Overdoing something can be as much as a problem as undergoing it.

I never said it was perfect under Klopp.


Liverpool had an epidemic of hamstring injuries in Klopp's early days. Because the players weren't conditioned to Klopp's intensive style. They definitely reduced the instances of them, but yes muscle injures happened to over the course of Klopp's tenure.

It's impossible to completely negate injuries when you're playing 50-60 intensive games a season. You can only take care to be as well prepared as you can be and avoid risk as much as possible.

I think the diagnosis i posted is a much more convincing explanation than "well actually these things can just happen and it was very slippy".

But yeah, go with whatever makes sense to you.

I will do exactly that, thanks.



And "well actually these things can just happen and it was very slippy" is not what I said.

[Mark79]

I will do exactly that, thanks.



And "well actually these things can just happen and it was very slippy" is not what I said.

You actually did, I just phrased it more flippantly.

[Doc_Piptorious]

You actually did, I just phrased it more flippantly.

Yo momma...

[Mark79]

Yo momma...

Oh no you didn't...

[BG1973]

https://twitter.com/i/status/2044463857372971103



We don't coach our players to play with high intensity anymore. We don't train them for it either.

So when we ask them to suddenly start doing a load of high intensity sprints for a particular game, they get injured.

He's 23 and trains all week in some guise. His achilles shouldnt be rupturing on his 10th sprint.

I am 53 and play tennis involving multiple sprints all over the court and so far not done an achilles. Calves yes...

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