Rio Ngumoah

[Charly]

Rio is not the answer. Too young. His bidy is still developing.

We dont want to burn him out with a higher press.

We need another body regardless, as Frimpong is not known for his robustness either.

[labourRed]

After his MOTM performance playing on the right for England, Rio has discussed the possibility of playing there this season for us, & I like the idea as we’ve got options on the left as it stands.

https://www.liverpool.com/liverpool-...salah-34336412

We're struggling in the market at present, so this looks like a solution to the RW, but as said we should try and get a versatile winger in as well. Or just anyone.

Diomande might go to Real if VIni leaves, or not who knows. But looks like Barcola isn't leaving PSG either.

[Exiled_red]

We still really need to manage his minutes, even if he plays on the right we would need to bring in someone who will play at least as many minutes there as him.

[SB]

After his MOTM performance playing on the right for England, Rio has discussed the possibility of playing there this season for us, & I like the idea as we’ve got options on the left as it stands.

https://www.liverpool.com/liverpool-fc-news/features/rio-ngumoha-liverpool-transfer-salah-34336412

[SB]

They were there to mimic the Arsenal players who weren't joining until later on, good experience for him TBH

ahhh fair enough, makes sense.

[Le Chef]

Yeah I’m surprised too. I just glanced at the lineups after HT & saw he was on . Good experience for the lad.

They were there to mimic the Arsenal players who weren't joining until later on, good experience for him TBH

[Doc_Piptorious]

100% all the above.
to see him being quickly passed the ball only to see him standing still doing multiple step overs while the rest of the defence sorts itself out. Frustrating!
hes far too focused on his own one to one and loses the overall picture of the attack.
A touch of the curtis jones "look at me" self belief show offs.
no doubting his potential, but we shouldn't hamstring the team just to develop rio.
its best he goes on loan to sharpen his overall game awareness.

You are not wrong with what you are saying, but as Charly mentioned that is down to his current level of tactical awareness and also down to his own levels of game experience at this level.

He is young and not very experienced so like a lot of young athletes he will be hyper focused on the moment when he receives a ball and blinkered to the point where his world is him and the defender facing him. He gets beyond that defender then you can see his head go up and taking a look to decide if there is a ball on or if he needs to draw in another defender.


How he is playing atm may not be the "smartest" , but it will become more refined through coaching, through in game experience at this level and through communication from team mates.


Have no idea how good he may or may not go on to be. Right now he looks a lot like like a young Shaun Wright Philips to me or even a little like Sterling (though missing some of the strength Sterling had when young) but when a player is only 17 or 18 it is very difficult to figure out just how much of his potential he will go on to realise save for the rare player that looks close to ready by the time they hit 18.

For me the best place for him to develop is with us as imo he is ready to be coming on for 20 to 30 minutes in place of one of the wingers most games and also to be getting maybe 10 to 20 starts (across all comps) on top of those minutes. If we can give him that sort of time on the pitch then we get the benefit of his youthful fearlessness whilst also getting to round out his game at a high level without it being in any way to the detriment of the team. Imo of course.

[RedReet]

100% all the above.
To see him being quickly passed the ball only to see him standing still doing multiple step overs while the rest of the defence sorts itself out. Frustrating!
Hes far too focused on his own one to one and loses the overall picture of the attack.
A touch of the curtis jones "look at me" self belief show offs.
No doubting his potential, but we shouldn't hamstring the team just to develop rio.
Its best he goes on loan to sharpen his overall game awareness.

wtf???

[Charly]

Its his tactical awareness, which is probably going to be a bit crap for most 17 year olds, but you would have hoped playmakers get a bit of extra training for when to release the final ball and where to look for runners. Thing is how he will be used in the new system.

[baitman]

It's true.

Incredibly skilful on the ball and quick with it, but there are still areas of his game that need quite a bit of work. His crossing is not good, and he almost always chooses to trap the ball and look for the dribble, which can slow an attack down. He often ends up running towards his own goal too far to look for space. He needs to be quicker to release it, look for give and goes, a one touch balls to the striker or midfield or else he will become too predictable and be worked out. At the moment I think he's a bit one dimensional, but I imagine that's the case of lots of players of his age, and we just never see them playing first team football. Bags of potential, but a lot still to work on to get out of the Jermain Pennant mould and into the top tier, and plenty of time to do it. It would probably be preferable for him to continue his development without the huge amount of attention and hype tbh.

100% all the above.
to see him being quickly passed the ball only to see him standing still doing multiple step overs while the rest of the defence sorts itself out. Frustrating!
hes far too focused on his own one to one and loses the overall picture of the attack.
A touch of the curtis jones "look at me" self belief show offs.
no doubting his potential, but we shouldn't hamstring the team just to develop rio.
its best he goes on loan to sharpen his overall game awareness.

[Kenneth]

Has a long way to go until he gets the Kenneth + Jerkins seal of approval.

It's true.

Incredibly skilful on the ball and quick with it, but there are still areas of his game that need quite a bit of work. His crossing is not good, and he almost always chooses to trap the ball and look for the dribble, which can slow an attack down. He often ends up running towards his own goal too far to look for space. He needs to be quicker to release it, look for give and goes, a one touch balls to the striker or midfield or else he will become too predictable and be worked out. At the moment I think he's a bit one dimensional, but I imagine that's the case of lots of players of his age, and we just never see them playing first team football. Bags of potential, but a lot still to work on to get out of the Jermain Pennant mould and into the top tier, and plenty of time to do it. It would probably be preferable for him to continue his development without the huge amount of attention and hype tbh.

[SB]

Maybe that will boost any transfer fee

In all seriousness, though good to see him get a chance, Although I kind of find it odd though that they are giving him game time in a WC warm up when he isn't going to the WC...

Yeah I’m surprised too. I just glanced at the lineups after HT & saw he was on . Good experience for the lad.

[Exiled_red]

Maybe that will boost any transfer fee

In all seriousness, though good to see him get a chance, Although I kind of find it odd though that they are giving him game time in a WC warm up when he isn't going to the WC...

[peterbread]

He’s come on at halftime. I think he’s the 5th youngest player for England

[SB]

On the bench for England at the moment.