Leeds away Saturday 6th December 530pm

[Tatterdemalion]

Perhaps not under normal circumstances but given our recent form going back to basics and defending a lead for the last 10 isn't a bad plan as long as you know what you are doing.

I've never understood it - if you are attacking and controlling the game, why then opt to sit back? It's inviting trouble. I feel like I've seen it backfire far more often than work.

To me it makes a lot more sense to bring on fresh attackers and give the oppo something new to think about in defending.

[Exiled_red]

I've never understood it - if you are attacking and controlling the game, why then opt to sit back? It's inviting trouble. I feel like I've seen it backfire far more often than work.

The opposition are gaining momentum and you are losing control.of the game as it's becoming more open. An additional defensive minded player is probably better than a forward who has been pushed back into doing a similar role. We had a great record of seeing out games when Endo came on a while back.

[baitman]

Virg is declining, so is not making his CB partner look better than he actually is, and the effects ripple through the whole defence.

We've got age-related decline with Virg/Salah, some players blowing hot and cold, and some new players that aren't showing why big money was lashed on them.

Konate has never been solid without virge to hold his hand.
Now virge is no longer the monster he has been its highlighting how poor konate is.
Is virge still talking konate through the games, or is he just throwing his arms in the air and mumbling under his breath at everyone else, dont forget to also criticise yourself, virge!

[Tatterdemalion]

The opposition are gaining momentum and you are losing control.of the game as it's becoming more open. An additional defensive minded player is probably better than a forward who has been pushed back into doing a similar role. We had a great record of seeing out games when Endo came on a while back.

So, me, as a tactical 12 year old - why can't we just keep attacking?

[vlahka]

None of this would be happening if we had kept big Nat who single handedly got us into the champions league. Could do with that right now.

Owen said something interesting. Cant recall the exact number cause my brain is swiss cheese, but he said we've conceded 10 or whatever goals from set pieces so far this season. We have set piece coaches, who you always see shouting at the sidelines. But when you lose to set pieces they vanish and its the manager who has to answer the questions. They need to be taking some blame.

[rudedog]

Which games are you talking about?

Bournemouth and Palace spring to mind, two other games where we squandered 2 goal leads

[peterbread]

Well we can all agree it’s a big mess and everyone’s got to take their share of the responsibility and it needs to get sorted soon or we’re headed into more trouble.

[BigChief]

Can we not just beat a **** team without this drama?

Exactly what Leeds fans were asking afterwards.

[Kenneth]

Bournemouth and Palace spring to mind, two other games where we squandered 2 goal leads

I don't recall a 2 goal lead Vs palace. In the league we were losing 1-0, went very attacking, equalised late and then conceded a second. In the community shield we tried to defend a one goal lead with endo coming on etc and conceded an equaliser.

Against Bournemouth, we made the defensive subs at 2-1 up and immediately conceded an equaliser, then brought on chiesa and won 4-2.

I'm not really seeing a pattern tbh, other than chiesa is the only sub worth making

[rudedog]

I don't recall a 2 goal lead Vs palace. In the league we were losing 1-0, went very attacking, equalised late and then conceded a second. In the community shield we tried to defend a one goal lead with endo coming on etc and conceded an equaliser.

Against Bournemouth, we made the defensive subs at 2-1 up and immediately conceded an equaliser, then brought on chiesa and won 4-2.

I'm not really seeing a pattern tbh, other than chiesa is the only sub worth making

You can add the Newcastle and Atheletico games where we also squandered leads, there was definitely a feeling that the team didn’t know how to change tactics to close a game out.

[Buzzo]

This goal is so bad. Tanaka is never marked or identified once in the build up to the goal. He’s free the moment before the corner is taken and he’s free as he slams the ball home.

[ame]https://twitter.com/the_forty_four/status/1997388693800112524[/ame]

[peterbread]

Del

[Harv]

Am i allowed to say how much i absolutely hate watching Cody Gakpo play.

Ive never really wished injury on any of our players, but what id give to see this guy forced out the side. An absolute black hole of a player.

[kingfunk]

Am i allowed to say how much i absolutely hate watching Cody Gakpo play.

Ive never really wished injury on any of our players, but what id give to see this guy forced out the side. An absolute black hole of a player.

Agreed, don’t rate him at all, one trick pony and hampering Kerkez’s progress imo.

[Norbs]

He's another that is far more effective given space. He's usually receiving the ball with his back to goal and 8 men between him and the target. He's been effective in the most part