Fernando Torres

[Craig_H]

Three years of Torres with a return to confidence, even at half capabilities is better than anything Carroll could ever offer.

Carroll won't last 3 years at Liverpool.

You alright there, cheerful charlie?

[Daniel 7]

You alright there, cheerful charlie?

Still suffering Torres heartache...

[Craig_H]

But he's become ****

[wavydavy]

And he didn't want to be here. The most important fact of all. Why the loyalty to him?

[Daniel 7]

Nah not loyalty, just the longing for what he once was and wishing we could have had him firing on all cylinders with Suarez. I don't think he's washed up at all, I think the system isn't suiting him there, and he would still have loads to offer under Kenny. I still miss Mascherano, Alonso, Benayoun and Rafa. We were almost there....

[Tee]

Hahahaha, another typical Torres performance. He is **** and Drogba is 10 times the player he is for Chelsea. They have 9 days left to get rid still.

[dom9]

Yes. in a heartbeat. Torres, Suarez, Downing and Kuyt would really get me going....

Add in Enrique, Johnson and Adam - THAT would be the team to beat. Carroll. Sorry. Never going to be in that class.

Considering you're on a downer about the summer transfers, you've done quite a good job of getting quite excited by most of them.

[Fernandinho]

I miss fernando too

[Kinell]

Sounds like you just gotta let go of what could of been Daniel7, and get behind Carroll and the current batch.

[Daniel 7]

I don't think I've been negative about any of them apart from Carroll. I haven't passed comment on Henderson yet - I really don't know that much about him and he hasn't really told me much so far, I like the Downing signing (touch overpriced, maybe), Enrique looks a great signing and has had an instant impact in improving the squad, and yes I moaned about Adam, but that was when it was looking like he was going to be a £10m plus signing. For the price, he seems to have been pretty good so far. He's going to be a squad player ultimately.

And I love Suarez

[Bender]

Let me ask a question.

If you could swap Torres for Carroll and let's say give Chavs additional 4-5m would you do it?

yes and yes and you would also get torres crawling back to liverpool

[RichC]

I don't think I've been negative about any of them apart from Carroll. I haven't passed comment on Henderson yet - I really don't know that much about him and he hasn't really told me much so far, I like the Downing signing (touch overpriced, maybe), Enrique looks a great signing and has had an instant impact in improving the squad, and yes I moaned about Adam, but that was when it was looking like he was going to be a £10m plus signing. For the price, he seems to have been pretty good so far. He's going to be a squad player ultimately.
And I love Suarez

In the 2 games we've had so far, in no way does it look likely Adam will be a squad player - he's been brought in as a key member of our midfield to play next to Lucas.

[Daniel 7]

You don't think Gerrard will take his place when he's fit? Suppose Henderson could drop out but that would mean pushing Gerrard out to the right wouldn't it?

[RichC]

No I don't, I have a feeling we'll see Gerrard out on the right if we set us as we have done so far this season and the 2 of Lucas and Adam sits pretty well together.

Thing is with Kenny he'll change formations to suit what he wants i.e. you might see Carroll up top with Suarez, Gerrard and Downing in a 3 behind with Lucas and Adam sitting.

[Suarez]

are Torres and carroll the worst pieces of business in football ever? I'm not talking individually but as a pair. 85 million of business, what an awful return.