What a ****ing clown lol.
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Originally posted by Exiled_red View PostWell if he hasn't been paid anything tax shouldn't be an issue
Exactly. Sounds to me like he is just trying to use the media again to paint what he thinks is a more positive image.
Give it six months or so of living away from Saudi and he will be bleating on about human rights again whilst searching down the back of a drawer for his rainbow laces.I don't hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around.
Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness
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He's ****ed up beyond belief and probably doesn't deserve any sympathy, but I'm surprised at the vitriol unleashed at him here and on Twitter. Most fans got what they wanted - his departure - and I don't see why what happens after that should be cause for delight, celebration or whatever. He's ****ed up, but surely given he lifted everything there is to win as LFC captain ought to have earned him a bit of respect, regardless of what happened afterwards. I've even seen some fans saying he should never be allowed back into the 'LFC family' and should be erased. What the ****?Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’
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Originally posted by Norbs View PostMocking aside, if he doesn't get paid then it will serve a lesson to any player that it's a shambles of a league. Can they really afford to tarnish their own competition?
IMO they can't afford to not pay him as it would be a PR disaster for them, and they would struggle to attract big name players and if they are trying to grow the league/game over there that would be the last thing that they want.The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.
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I mentioned that despite the overhaul of the midfield I would have kept him as a senior player/club captain/off the field leader even if he wasn't playing. Seemingly he didn't want that, he still thought he should be playing regularly, which is fair enough, so he moved on that bit is fair enough.Originally posted by Shaggy View PostHe's ****ed up beyond belief and probably doesn't deserve any sympathy, but I'm surprised at the vitriol unleashed at him here and on Twitter. Most fans got what they wanted - his departure - and I don't see why what happens after that should be cause for delight, celebration or whatever. He's ****ed up, but surely given he lifted everything there is to win as LFC captain ought to have earned him a bit of respect, regardless of what happened afterwards. I've even seen some fans saying he should never be allowed back into the 'LFC family' and should be erased. What the ****?
On the face of it he moved to Saudi for the money and in doing so sold out his principles to a regime that was persecuting the people who he used to stand up for. For me that is a very difficult one to forgive. As 'mistakes' go that's a massive one. Despite that he was our captain for 8(?) years and responsible for alot of the leadership of one of the greatest teams I have ever seen and arguably one of the greatest LFC teams ever, lifting every trophy going. So my views on him are rather conflicted. I feel like as a person I should dislike him for selling out his principles but as a football fan I should like him because of what he did for the club. My views on it swing about more or less everytime I think about him.
Would he be welcome back at Anfield, certainly by the players and the management team I would say yes, amongst the fans I am not so sure. I feel like he might end up with a Graeme Souness type relationship where for some the scars take a long time to heal...The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.
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Originally posted by Shaggy View PostHe's ****ed up beyond belief and probably doesn't deserve any sympathy, but I'm surprised at the vitriol unleashed at him here and on Twitter. Most fans got what they wanted - his departure - and I don't see why what happens after that should be cause for delight, celebration or whatever. He's ****ed up, but surely given he lifted everything there is to win as LFC captain ought to have earned him a bit of respect, regardless of what happened afterwards. I've even seen some fans saying he should never be allowed back into the 'LFC family' and should be erased. What the ****?
What he was like as a player for us in his prime cannot be taken away or erased. The on pitch guy cannot be retro actively cancelled, erased or whatever term one choses.
What he did as a player will always be just that.
However the person, the man away from the pitch. Well he has shown his character or rather lack of such a number of times now, and his current attempts at trying to use the media to push out his version, sorry his versions as it seems to change almost daily, of events is just showing him up as being a very stupid man but also one with an immense ego imo.
He will forever be a player that was a very important part of what was one of our best ever teams, maybe even best ever team. He will also be a guy who showed himself, more than a lot of other players due to his constant attempts at spraying bull****, to be lacking in any firm values of his own bar self service and that any of his past beliefs, causes or opinions were just useful tools in pushing his "brand"
Think if he had just left the club and if asked why he chose going to Saudi had just come out with some trite line like "The offer that was put to me was too good to turn down at this stage of my career" then he would still have gotten stick for turning his back on the LGBTQ community that he claimed meant so much to him but at least he would have had a number of people looking at him and saying "well at least he was honest in saying it was for the money"
He was fully entitled to go play for any club whose offer he liked.He was fully entitled to turn his back on people he once claimed mattered so much to him. He was fully entitled to say he was going to Saudi to try and change the culture and say that with the same level of "sincerity" that he once used when speaking about the LGBTQ community, but those that then listen to what he said and who looked at how he acted are then entitled to question his words when they conflict badly with his past words.
Henderson can do and say as he pleases, but he is not immune to owning the outcome to those words and actions.
Was he a really important player for us? Very much so.
Was he one of the better captain I have seen at the club? For me he was the best club captain we had since the late 1980s.
Has he shown himself to possibly be nothing more than a self serving shallow weak minded greedy man since leaving and maybe also in that time period just before leaving? It certainly appears that way.
Henderson the player was immense in his prime. Henderson the man is apparantly proving to be a very underwhelming individual.I don't hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around.
Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness
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Im confused. He would rather receive nothing so he doesnt have to pay tax rather than be paid and lose 40% to the taxman?Originally posted by Exiled_red View PostWell if he hasn't been paid anything tax shouldn't be an issue
Someone explain this?In the beginning, Fowler created the Heaven and the Earth.
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Originally posted by Shaggy View PostHe's ****ed up beyond belief and probably doesn't deserve any sympathy, but I'm surprised at the vitriol unleashed at him here and on Twitter. Most fans got what they wanted - his departure - and I don't see why what happens after that should be cause for delight, celebration or whatever. He's ****ed up, but surely given he lifted everything there is to win as LFC captain ought to have earned him a bit of respect, regardless of what happened afterwards. I've even seen some fans saying he should never be allowed back into the 'LFC family' and should be erased. What the ****?
Was going to post something similar but you've saved me the bother
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Originally posted by Doc_Piptorious View PostExactly. Sounds to me like he is just trying to use the media again to paint what he thinks is a more positive image.
Give it six months or so of living away from Saudi and he will be bleating on about human rights again whilst searching down the back of a drawer for his rainbow laces.
Me, I’m either planning a holiday or I’m on one.
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Just checked back my posts in this thread and luckily have been very graciousOriginally posted by Shaggy View PostHe's ****ed up beyond belief and probably doesn't deserve any sympathy, but I'm surprised at the vitriol unleashed at him here and on Twitter. Most fans got what they wanted - his departure - and I don't see why what happens after that should be cause for delight, celebration or whatever. He's ****ed up, but surely given he lifted everything there is to win as LFC captain ought to have earned him a bit of respect, regardless of what happened afterwards. I've even seen some fans saying he should never be allowed back into the 'LFC family' and should be erased. What the ****?
It's sad more than anything that his decision to go there was so ill advised. It could've only been about money, and that's the one thing he's got plenty of already. I've joked about Sunderland (the town) but his wealth will really go a long way there. He could've gone anywhere in Europe without a soul moaning and would then have retained his legacy.
I expect he'll get a warm welcome back at Anfield one day, hopefully, but he'll not be lauded for his achievements or a poster boy for succeeding with limited ability as he should be
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