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With the budget their working off in comparison to others, he is expected to get the title. I think it's bit OTT regarding Rodgers but sure we'll see how he goes. I have no ill will for him, he just wasn't good enough for us. Maybe Celtic is his level.Originally posted by Maxiedge View PostSorry Dan, there is no way he's going to do well there. Putting his other faults to one side, he can't setup a defence. Without that, they're doomed. Our defending was genuinely one of the worst in the league while he was here and the only reason we didn't get relegated was because of the calibre of players we had as individuals to bail us out.
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After his failure with us & that opening fixture it's bad times for the chap. They'll beat the mighty Red Imps and push on from there IMO.Originally posted by Buzzo View PostIt is hard to imagine things getting worse for him than they are right now - I'd say he has already used up one of his lives.
If he doesn't win the OF battles then his goose will be cooked. But he should be a good enough manager to prosper and bag the annual title for Celtic in Scotland.
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I guess you have some logic, however illogical.Originally posted by Maxiedge View Post
This was another massive issue I had with him as he had the summer to re-invigorate his ideas, maybe try something new, and I was staying positive and supportive as a fan (benefit of the doubt etc...)
Once the new season started and it was the same old ****, that's when the penny dropped and in a way, it was a keyser soze moment when all the evidence feel into place.
No to shoot myself in the foot, but did anybody actually see the goal Celtic conceded? Was ridiculously poor defending.
The player in question too.
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Originally posted by RedReet View PostIt was ****, yes, but even with me up front, we'd have hardly got relegated.
Besides, you were still campaigning for Rodgers until his final 6 months, so again he couldn't have been that bad in the 2.5+ years beforehand.
This was another massive issue I had with him as he had the summer to re-invigorate his ideas, maybe try something new, and I was staying positive and supportive as a fan (benefit of the doubt etc...)
Once the new season started and it was the same old ****, that's when the penny dropped and in a way, it was a keyser soze moment when all the evidence feel into place.
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Originally posted by MuddledWhilst I agree with RedReet on the good things Rodgers did (getting the best from Suarez, making 4-4-2 a modern day formation again, etc) our defence was terrible. It's a fact that Rodgers is our worst post-war manager, conceding an average of 1.26 goals a game.
However, he was our most successful scoring manager and whether you put that down to Rodgers or Suarez our goal difference was relatively positive because of that.
His chat is often a toe-curling cringefest but he took us within a grounded stud of the title and had some semi-successful cup runs with both proving to be one step too far for him.
He came, he tried, he reinvigorated my love of football again, he ballsed it up and he moved on. I don't feel anger or hate towards him but nor would I defend him to the hilt in a pressure soaked bar room debate.
I can't make a case for us ever having a good defence while he was here and I didn't at the time either. I can't say the same for those that were licking his balls at the time, declaring him the second coming of Shanks, just to retract everything they ever said as if it never happened and give him no credit whatsoever.
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Whilst I agree with RedReet on the good things Rodgers did (getting the best from Suarez, making 4-4-2 a modern day formation again, etc) our defence was terrible. It's a fact that Rodgers is our worst post-war manager, conceding an average of 1.26 goals a game.
However, he was our most successful scoring manager and whether you put that down to Rodgers or Suarez our goal difference was relatively positive because of that.
His chat is often a toe-curling cringefest but he took us within a grounded stud of the title and had some semi-successful cup runs with both proving to be one step too far for him.
He came, he tried, he reinvigorated my love of football again, he ballsed it up and he moved on. I don't feel anger or hate towards him but nor would I defend him to the hilt in a pressure soaked bar room debate. Brendan is beige.
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It was ****, yes, but even with me up front, we'd have hardly got relegated.Originally posted by Maxiedge View PostErrrr sorry but yes it was. We just looked like conceding in every game. What sort of foundation is that to go into every game with?
Besides, you were still campaigning for Rodgers until his final 6 months, so again he couldn't have been that bad in the 2.5+ years beforehand.
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Did he not in his second season when Downing was playing out right (or LB) at times? Even still, playing him second fiddle to Carroll was a crime in itself.Originally posted by Rich View PostSuarez out wide?! Kenny didn't do that.
That wasn't my point anyway, Rodgers was getting slaughtered for saying he was going to make Suarez the focal point of the attack because 'that didn't suit Suarez' and every fool knew his best position was wide left 'like he played for Ajax and Uruguay'. It was a brave decision to make that tpe of player your lone striker, then to accommodate Sturridge too when he was signed and make him even better was good management.
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Errrr sorry but yes it was. We just looked like conceding in every game. What sort of foundation is that to go into every game with?Originally posted by RedReet View PostOur defence wasn’t that bad. It was also Rodgers that moved Suarez from out wide to the centre and built the team around him, got the best out of Sterling, ignored public opinion and got a great season out of Gerrard in DM and even dropped Coutinho to CM and got some memorable performances.
He had his faults, but he isn’t this terrible manager that fluked across a world class team that he tried his best to f*ck up, as some portray.
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Suarez out wide?! Kenny didn't do that.Originally posted by RedReet View PostOur defence wasn’t that bad. It was also Rodgers that moved Suarez from out wide to the centre and built the team around him, got the best out of Sterling, ignored public opinion and got a great season out of Gerrard in DM and even dropped Coutinho to CM and got some memorable performances.
He had his faults, but he isn’t this terrible manager that fluked across a world class team that he tried his best to f*ck up, as some portray.
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Our defence wasn’t that bad. It was also Rodgers that moved Suarez from out wide to the centre and built the team around him, got the best out of Sterling, ignored public opinion and got a great season out of Gerrard in DM and even dropped Coutinho to CM and got some memorable performances.Originally posted by Maxiedge View PostSorry Dan, there is no way he's going to do well there. Putting his other faults to one side, he can't setup a defence. Without that, they're doomed. Our defending was genuinely one of the worst in the league while he was here and the only reason we didn't get relegated was because of the calibre of players we had as individuals to bail us out.
He had his faults, but he isn’t this terrible manager that fluked across a world class team that he tried his best to f*ck up, as some portray.
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