Steven Gerrard

[Shaggy]

Eh? He never consistently played on the right for Houllier- Murphy, Barmby & Vlad used to play there & Stevie played at CM, ahead of Didi. He refers to the times he was shunted out to RM as the "Graveyard Shift" in his book.

The only time he played RM with consistency was in the 05-06 season under Rafa, when Xabi and Momo were the CMs & even then he was also deployed centrally.

His role in front of Masher & Xabi & behind Torres was by far his most "unshackled " & productive position in terms of goals and assists.

You're right about Xabi of course, always said he was our most important player.

[RedReet]

Eh? He never consistently played on the right for Houllier- Murphy, Barmby & Vlad used to play there & Stevie played at CM, ahead of Didi. He refers to the times he was shunted out to RM as the "Graveyard Shift" in his book.

The only time he played RM with consistency was in the 05-06 season under Rafa, when Xabi and Momo were the CMs & even then he was also deployed centrally.

His role in front of Masher & Xabi & behind Torres was by far his most "unshackled " & productive position in terms of goals and assists.

You're right about Xabi of course, always said he was our most important player.

[Lecter]

I think he was at his best that far forward, he lacks the discipline for a centre mid.

Agreed

The most disciplined performances hes given for years was when he played central midfield against United at Anfield this year

However you could argue that he was disciplined because he physically couldnt do any more (because he was carrying the injury)

I think a fit Gerrard will still bomb on and evacuate the central ground too much

[Norbs]

So that's half of our matchwinners out of action. And Suarez borderline whether or not he'll make the opening day. When i've been banging on about buying matchwinners instead of 'decent and solid' performers, this is kinda why...

Craig, Craig, Craig. There's always a bird who you see in a bar that you want to bang but no matter how much YOU want it, she's out of your league. You have to just let it go buddy.

Let it go

[Chrono]

Some right doom mongers on this site. A Gerrard running at half his normal ability is still better than a good 90% of the players in this league (or any other). He will be back and I don't believe for a minute he is finished. It's tragic that he hasn't ever won the league when you think of some of the dross players that have.

Stevie

[dww]

Some right doom mongers on this site. A Gerrard running at half his normal ability is still better than a good 90% of the players in this league (or any other). He will be back and I don't believe for a minute he is finished. It's tragic that he hasn't ever won the league when you think of some of the dross players that have.

Stevie

That's a fair point but it would be negligent for us to not plan to play a significant amount of any season without him now. I've said so for a while now but this setback makes it even more important.

[Chrono]

That's a fair point but it would be negligent for us to not plan to play a significant amount of any season without him now. I've said so for a while now but this setback makes it even more important.

Absolutely, I think that's true of any players around that age particularly if there are injury concerns but I don't think his delayed return to the first team means he is done in. He has had this injury many times and you could take the pessimist's approach and say it will finally do him in or one could be a little more positive and point to the fact that he has dealt with similar in the past. He hasn't even played that poorly for us but it's credit to him that we expect superman whenever he steps on to the pitch.

We should definitely plan for a future without him but I do hate all this negativity.

[Arn]

Absolutely, I think that's true of any players around that age particularly if there are injury concerns but I don't think his delayed return to the first team means he is done in. He has had this injury many times and you could take the pessimist's approach and say it will finally do him in or one could be a little more positive and point to the fact that he has dealt with similar in the past. He hasn't even played that poorly for us but it's credit to him that we expect superman whenever he steps on to the pitch.

We should definitely plan for a future without him but I do hate all this negativity.

I'm a fool.

[Lecter]

The problem is that he hasn't been superhuman since the 2008-09 season. That is two years ago. He is also getting older. Another problem is that he will lose a bit of pace everytime he get the same old hamstring injury. Nothing he can do about that. Look at Torres and Owen how much pace you can lose. It could simply destroy a career and that happened many many times.

It would have been better if he had broken a leg or both legs because that is easier injuries to deal with that a very problematic hamstring injury.

I think that Gerrard will have to change his game just like Giggs did if he want to continue at the top. He will have to do less running, less runs into the box. He will simply have to use his head more than his legs.

That means that we won't be able to use him in the same way. We will have to think about how to best fit him into the team.

Gerrards problem isnt hamstrings

Its is a groin injury

[RichC]

The problem is that he hasn't been superhuman since the 2008-09 season. That is two years ago. He is also getting older. Another problem is that he will lose a bit of pace everytime he get the same old hamstring injury. Nothing he can do about that. Look at Torres and Owen how much pace you can lose. It could simply destroy a career and that happened many many times.

It would have been better if he had broken a leg or both legs because that is easier injuries to deal with that a very problematic hamstring injury.
I think that Gerrard will have to change his game just like Giggs did if he want to continue at the top. He will have to do less running, less runs into the box. He will simply have to use his head more than his legs.

That means that we won't be able to use him in the same way. We will have to think about how to best fit him into the team.

Are you being serious here!!!

[Arn]

Gerrards problem isnt hamstrings

Its is a groin injury

I saw my mistake but I can't edit it now because you quoted me You're to quick for me Lec

[Arn]

I edited it now. I think even Lec will like it. He will call it one of my best posts ever.

[Lecter]

I edited it now. I think even Lec will like it. He will call it one of my best posts ever.

[scipio76]

Reading the media reports over the past few days on Gerrard's injury has made me more than a bit worried. The parallels with what I've heard of Gerrard's injury and rehab and what Ireland rugby international and Munster captain Paul O'Connell went through for most of 2010 are pretty stark.

At first O'Connell was ruled out in spring 2010 with a groin problem. The injury proved persistant and an infection was then diagnosed. The problem is that apparently infections of this nature can be hard to accurately identify and the initial treatment for the infection did not work with the result that it then spread to the pubic bone. O'Connell had to go into hospital for treatment with IV antibiotics (sound familiar?) and although this ultimately cured the infection the rehab after that was long. This was due to the fact that, apart from the normal rehab from a groin problem, the bone had become brittle and needed considerable time to strengthen. Through all this period O'Connell was constantly being reported as being 3-4 weeks from a return. In total he was out for 8 months.

Hopefully I'm being paranoid but the media reports I've heard over the past few months have sounded eerily familiar.

[Roboklopp]

Excellent name that, excellent.