Mamadou Sakho

[Fierce]

I very much doubt he's been told anything that definitive.

Isnt half some nonsense written. What would a player have to do to be told that!

[labourRed]

I very much doubt he's been told anything that definitive.

From what I can see he's not training with the first team, yet. Considering Karius is with one hand i think it's fair to say he has been banished.

Echo ran the same line.

[Maxiedge]

Do you know what this really smells of? It smells of some incident happening which the club don't wish to make public but from within it's been seen as gross misconduct and it's upset the ranks.

I can't really think of why else we would be in this situation as Sakho has always come across as a bit of a legend in the making both on and off the pitch.

[Exiled_red]

Do you know what this really smells of? It smells of some incident happening which the club don't wish to make public but from within it's been seen as grave misconduct and it's upset the ranks.

I can't really think of why else we would be in this situation as Sakho has always come across as a bit of a legend in the making both on and off the pitch.

I was thinking along the same lines, it's the only thing that seems to make sense

[Buzzo]

Do you know what this really smells of? It smells of some incident happening which the club don't wish to make public but from within it's been seen as grave misconduct and it's upset the ranks.

I can't really think of why else we would be in this situation as Sakho has always come across as a bit of a legend in the making both on and off the pitch.

I agree. I think it is also Klopp setting a benchmark in terms of behaviour that will be tolerated. The failed drug test is obviously the catalyst, and whilst Sakho was let off on a technicality he was obviously out of line. I'd imagine the expectation on the back of this would be that he would come back in knuckle down and prove his worth to the team. Based on his larking around and interrupting Klopp's press conference and turning up late for a meeting it seems he didn't really give a ****.

Shame, because he seems a good laugh and is a good player. But ultimately ulsquad unity and deference to the manager is more important.

[Maxiedge]

I was thinking along the same lines, it's the only thing that seems to make sense

What we know so far:

1) banned for substance abuse - cleared of charges!

2) turned up late for flight - not serious, can be forgiven

3) interrupts Klopp during filming - not serious, meant in jest

It just doesn't add up to why he's been banished.

[Shaggy]

I agree. I think it is also Klopp setting a benchmark in terms of behaviour that will be tolerated. The failed drug test is obviously the catalyst, and whilst Sakho was let off on a technicality he was obviously out of line. I'd imagine the expectation on the back of this would be that he would come back in knuckle down and prove his worth to the team. Based on his larking around and interrupting Klopp's press conference and turning up late for a meeting it seems he didn't really give a ****.

Shame, because he seems a good laugh and is a good player. But ultimately ulsquad unity and deference to the manager is more important.

That's the only conclusion I can reach. Ferguson did this sort of thing a few times. As much as I like Sakho...in fact I ****ing love the guy....Klopp is more integral to the future (success) of the club - much more so - so you have to back the manager. But it's pretty baffling.

[Maxiedge]

I agree. I think it is also Klopp setting a benchmark in terms of behaviour that will be tolerated. The failed drug test is obviously the catalyst, and whilst Sakho was let off on a technicality he was obviously out of line. I'd imagine the expectation on the back of this would be that he would come back in knuckle down and prove his worth to the team. Based on his larking around and interrupting Klopp's press conference and turning up late for a meeting it seems he didn't really give a ****.

Shame, because he seems a good laugh and is a good player. But ultimately ulsquad unity and deference to the manager is more important.

Yeah it must be along the lines of general attitude since coming back from his ban. Not trying to stir the pot here but there's obviously been some sort of exchange between Sakho and Kloppo that's left their relationship irreconcilable

[Buzzo]

That's the only conclusion I can reach. Ferguson did this sort of thing a few times. As much as I like Sakho...in fact I ****ing love the guy....Klopp is more integral to the future (success) of the club - much more so - so you have to back the manager. But it's pretty baffling.

It is the one thing I think Klopp brings that we've not had in decades as a club. He is the boss. **** with him and you are out the door. Ultimately successful teams are built with a strong personality as manager. As you say Ferguson did this. And it certainly makes a change from recent managers who did not seem to have the personalities to really lead the squad offering almost universal praise (I suppose Rafas management of Gerrard is the last time we saw similar) but Klopp is on a different level, and is probably the biggest asset we have at the club.

[Nicey]

In Klopp we trust

[danperkins]

I agree. I think it is also Klopp setting a benchmark in terms of behaviour that will be tolerated. The failed drug test is obviously the catalyst, and whilst Sakho was let off on a technicality he was obviously out of line. I'd imagine the expectation on the back of this would be that he would come back in knuckle down and prove his worth to the team. Based on his larking around and interrupting Klopp's press conference and turning up late for a meeting it seems he didn't really give a ****.

Shame, because he seems a good laugh and is a good player. But ultimately ulsquad unity and deference to the manager is more important.

[Rowan]

What we know so far:

1) banned for substance abuse - cleared of charges!

2) turned up late for flight - not serious, can be forgiven

3) interrupts Klopp during filming - not serious, meant in jest

It just doesn't add up to why he's been banished.

Yeah but there'll be far more to it than that. The snippets that get out won't reflect everything that has gone on. You must have to be an utter, utter **** about to get sent home from a tour and I'm guessing that the club won't want to do much more damage to the value of their 'asset' by making the full scope of his tomfoolery obvious... not to mention by doing so would strongly indicate a total lack in their ability to motivate and control the players.

I firmly believe that for us to have taken such a hard stance there would have had to be a sustained period of unacceptable and unprofessional behaviour. Also not sure why the dams need to know what that was. He acted the dick, he's been disciplined accordingly. Let this be a lesson to any others in the squad thinking about doing the same

[fah-q]

Nothing to do with Lovren I hope.

[Irishnev]

That's the only conclusion I can reach. Ferguson did this sort of thing a few times. As much as I like Sakho...in fact I ****ing love the guy....Klopp is more integral to the future (success) of the club - much more so - so you have to back the manager. But it's pretty baffling.

This is the most important thing in all of this. Klopp is much more important to the future of Liverpool

[kev776]

News from Anfield is that Mama wants to stay and fight to prove Jurgen is wrong and win back his place.

I hope this is true.