Georginio Wijnaldum

[Mr Pink]

With everyone fit, Gini is probably fourth choice midfielder (Fabinho, Henderson Thiago). We also need younger, fresher midfielders to maintain our normal high intensity game. And we need something different.

An upgrade to Firmino would also help our cause.

I know it's harsh on Gini, but we can't criticise the club for not keeping players (like Gini) and then criticise Klopp for not refreshing the squad. We're not City. We have constraints with wages.

There’s an argument that he’d be higher on the list than 4th, but even at that, how often was everyone fit this season? Without looking up the stats he’s surely played the most games of any midfielder this season (definitely the most games in a midfield position). So I don’t think it matters if he’s 4th choice, if he’s regularly in the first 3 choices to start.

Also more importantly the 5th, 6th and 7th choice midfielders (Milner, naby, ox) are all earning considerably more than him. If it’s due to wages constraints (and only a matter of money for gini), I’d rather sell naby/ox for whatever little amount we can get for them and with their freed up wages, give gini what he wants.

[Exiled_red]

With everyone fit, Gini is probably fourth choice midfielder (Fabinho, Henderson Thiago). We also need younger, fresher midfielders to maintain our normal high intensity game. And we need something different.

An upgrade to Firmino would also help our cause.

I know it's harsh on Gini, but we can't criticise the club for not keeping players (like Gini) and then criticise Klopp for not refreshing the squad. We're not City. We have constraints with wages.

When the option is available to us IMO we are rotating our midfield and if everyone were fit all season I suspect those 4 (Henderson, Fabinho, Wijnaldum and Thiago) would all have ended up playing very similar numbers of games. Taking into account average injury records, Gini probably plays the most.

If we are talking about evolving the squad the natural thing to do IMO is replace the guys who don't play regularly first, so IMO the likes of Shaq, Keita and Ox would have been ahead of him in the queue for the door. bUt obviously things don't always work like that...

[Rigadon]

With everyone fit, Gini is probably fourth choice midfielder (Fabinho, Henderson Thiago). We also need younger, fresher midfielders to maintain our normal high intensity game. And we need something different.

An upgrade to Firmino would also help our cause.

I know it's harsh on Gini, but we can't criticise the club for not keeping players (like Gini) and then criticise Klopp for not refreshing the squad. We're not City. We have constraints with wages.

[danperkins]

He’s not been the world class attacking threat he was for two seasons, he’s just been performing mainly a standard left back. That’s as far as I’m prepared to go

It was noticeable that Sadio playing well for once opened up space for Robbo again yesterday.

Robbo & Mane imo are two of the best pairings on any part of the pitch, in any football side, utterly relentless. Unfortunately this year has seen a drop off in both. Next season imo they'll be back to their world class best. It's been a truly ****ed up season and an even more ****ed up year in the world. As the world renowned philanthropists and innovators D-Ream say.... "Things can only get better".

[Shaggy]

Soz for the self-indulgent ****e but Gini sorted my dad and me tickets for Kiev when he heard we missed out in the ballot, a photo from that night is now pride of place on the mantlepiece. A few words and that photo is towards the bottom of this piece released today. https://www.joe.co.uk/sport/the-foo....MPLuxN18AnHQ3U

That link isn't working for me?

[Buzzo]

that's fair enough both were good up until Decemeber, after that it has been pretty much car crash stuff. Gini coasting anonymous in games and Robbo just exhausted and his crossing and passing went off a cliff. So yeah for the second half of the season it is fair to say both have been pretty ****. Also lets call a spade a spade you are just about as biased as it gets when it comes to Robbo

I am a huge fan of both Robbo and Gini but unfortunately when you set certain standards, you are judged by those it comes with the territory. I would argue Robbo has been one of/if not the best left back in the world the last few years. Robbo did start off well looke so sharp and then just tailed off, over played and just a huge drop off in his passing and crossing. Never knock his effort and the positions he gets in. I don't worry about him at all, he has simply been over played & Gini's head has been elsewhere. The problem we have in the last 5 months or so is that we didn't have quality replacements to bench them. We cannot put ourselves in that position again if we want to win the league.

I'm glad this season is over, it really has been a messed up year and an exhausting one as a fan. Champs league spot done and dusted so delighted about that.

He’s not been the world class attacking threat he was for two seasons, he’s just been performing mainly a standard left back. That’s as far as I’m prepared to go

It was noticeable that Sadio playing well for once opened up space for Robbo again yesterday.

[Tribute]

Bayern Munich are favourites to sign him now, according to the bookies.

Read also PSG very interested... sounds like he'll have a choice to make!
Good luck to him.

[calvoboy]

Yeah if I was him I’d want my future sorting before the Euros. Waiting to see who’s in charge at Barca no doubt

Bayern Munich are favourites to sign him now, according to the bookies.

[Paul12]

We have been dependent on Gini's fitness and defensive strengths this season (although not his offensive stuff) but we need to get used to this if we are to renew our team...ie every season one or two first teamers becoming squad players and a third leaving completely. Gini is leaving; one of the strikers will become more of a squad player and one other player too, maybe because of fitness as much as anything (Hendo or Joe?)

But it does mean players coming in too.

[frank the tank]

totally agree with this point. In reality Gini has been there pretty much every ****in week.

[danperkins]

I am prepared to let most guys this season off, because of the crazy nature of the season - compressed because of COVID, no fans in the ground, the absence of any real recognised CBs for more than half of the season. These all clearly affected the players, the full backs and midfielders were either filling in or covering for the CBs and not able to play their natural game, the midfield was deeper because of this, the high press wasn't really there and the gap between the midfield and the forwards was bigger than normal giving them a more difficult time. Yes we can find alot to moan about but IMO there were alot of mitigating circumstances. In the end we made the CL I am happy to focus on the positives and forget about many of the negatives and move on.

The one thing we cannot forget is though is the issues of who has been reliable (in terms of injury) and who hasn't for me this has been building for a while and I think we really need to get review the viability of keeping some of the players that regularly spend half a season or so injured or unavailable (Matip, Ox, Naby etc)

A huge issue and I suppose one of the reason Gini was so important to us, always available.

[danperkins]

Gini was brilliant up until the turn of the year. Same as Robbo and then dropped off. Our season began well, terrible middle section, and ended well.

There needs to be a few more categories of performance for players than ‘absolute ****e’ and ‘brilliant’

that's fair enough both were good up until Decemeber, after that it has been pretty much car crash stuff. Gini coasting anonymous in games and Robbo just exhausted and his crossing and passing went off a cliff. So yeah for the second half of the season it is fair to say both have been pretty ****. Also lets call a spade a spade you are just about as biased as it gets when it comes to Robbo

I am a huge fan of both Robbo and Gini but unfortunately when you set certain standards, you are judged by those it comes with the territory. I would argue Robbo has been one of/if not the best left back in the world the last few years. Robbo did start off well looke so sharp and then just tailed off, over played and just a huge drop off in his passing and crossing. Never knock his effort and the positions he gets in. I don't worry about him at all, he has simply been over played & Gini's head has been elsewhere. The problem we have in the last 5 months or so is that we didn't have quality replacements to bench them. We cannot put ourselves in that position again if we want to win the league.

I'm glad this season is over, it really has been a messed up year and an exhausting one as a fan. Champs league spot done and dusted so delighted about that.

[Exiled_red]

Gini was brilliant up until the turn of the year. Same as Robbo and then dropped off. Our season began well, terrible middle section, and ended well.

There needs to be a few more categories of performance for players than ‘absolute ****e’ and ‘brilliant’

I am prepared to let most guys this season off, because of the crazy nature of the season - compressed because of COVID, no fans in the ground, the absence of any real recognised CBs for more than half of the season. These all clearly affected the players, the full backs and midfielders were either filling in or covering for the CBs and not able to play their natural game, the midfield was deeper because of this, the high press wasn't really there and the gap between the midfield and the forwards was bigger than normal giving them a more difficult time. Yes we can find alot to moan about but IMO there were alot of mitigating circumstances. In the end we made the CL I am happy to focus on the positives and forget about many of the negatives and move on.

The one thing we cannot forget is though is the issues of who has been reliable (in terms of injury) and who hasn't for me this has been building for a while and I think we really need to get review the viability of keeping some of the players that regularly spend half a season or so injured or unavailable (Matip, Ox, Naby etc)

[Buzzo]

Gini was brilliant up until the turn of the year. Same as Robbo and then dropped off. Our season began well, terrible middle section, and ended well.

There needs to be a few more categories of performance for players than ‘absolute ****e’ and ‘brilliant’

[danperkins]

Massive fan of Gini, absolutely **** this season but he has been a fabulous player for us and is a huge part of our recent success. A true all rounder and genuinely seems a nice guy as well, loved by all. I'm sure the details will come out at some point about why he has left. In the end it won't matter he'll just be another guy that has left the club and we'll move on.

Henderson, Thiago and Fabinho is probably first choice when everyone is fit. For me though with Gini gone, a goal scoring midfielder would be a lovely replacement. Having players to break down teams who sit deep is paramount now, we have graft in the midfield and now with Thiago we have real craft there too. Now we just need someone who can chip in with goals from the midfield so we are not so reliant on the front lads. I can see why we've been linked with the of Goncalves when you see just how important likes of Fernandes, KDB, Gundogan are scoring goals from the midfield areas. I also see why we've been linked with likes of Bissouma as having a DM who can shield the back likes of Kante, Kimmich, Casemiro.

We need quality squad depth, this season has highlighted that more than ever.