Originally posted by Norbs
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But unless Naby has studied Asian culture, learnt of the meaning and offensiveness of the particular tattoo, and then had it inked on... its kind of ridiculous to be outraged by his behaviour. Should we get stuck into Hindu's for using the swastika? They're clearly not Nazis and the symbol has an entirely different meaning in Hindu culture.Originally posted by Red_Polo View PostI mean yeah some people can be oversensitive, but let's not pretend no symbols can ever be offensive to anyone. If someone finds it offensive I'd prefer to hear their argument as to why rather than take some sort of default extreme position one way or another.
I separately asked a Japanese friend and another friend from Korea about it and I get the impression there does seem to be some reasonable cause for being offended by it, with it being widely reviled in some places and there still being mixed opinion within Japan as you get with the confed flag in the US for instance. Whether that should mean Keita ought be harangued about it is obviously another thing because, you know, let's not throw the Baby Keith out with the bath water etc. Equally, let's not get so offended by people getting offended
I'm 99% certain Naby Keith isn't a Japanese fascist, and having a tattoo of the sun certainly doesn't make him one. Yet some people on the internet who've never met him have decided he's being offensive to them? Ridiculous.Comment
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All of which needs to be considered, as I pointed out in my initial post.Originally posted by Patricks_Berger View Post
Often though even these analogies are not straightforward. For instance, Hindu and Buddhist use of swastika long predates Nazi usage and continued to have no association with Nazism throughout that usage. That's clearly not the case with the rising sun flag which has always been an emblem of Japanese imperial and/or military might.
Also, whilst intent matters, it is not the solitary thing which defines what an emblem conveys. If a Hindu with a swastika wristband was visiting Auschwitz you'd expect them to cover it the **** up.
To be clear, I'm not making any judgment on this issue at all as I know far too little about it. I don't even know if he has the damn tattoo! However, it seems obvious to me that people arguing it is just PC gone mad faux outrage are just as lacking in sense as those suggesting it's utterly despicable.Like blood on ironComment
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Apparently this is the original design for the offending tattoo.
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Very goodOh I don't know.Comment
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Originally posted by Tatterdemalion View PostApparently this is the original design for the offending tattoo.
The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.Comment
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Outstanding
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[ame]https://twitter.com/LFC/status/1013694065995603968[/ame]Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’Comment
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should be in a suit - bloody scruff.Those that hid Anne Frank were breaking the law.
Those that killed her, were following the law.Comment
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Klopp asking how's his english going [emoji16]Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
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who's arsed?
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I want a Klopp hugI saw a dead fish on the pavement and thought "what did you expect?"
There's no water round here stupid, should have stayed where it was wetComment
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The club could probably make a fortune for charity selling Klopp hugs to the fansOriginally posted by Fierce View Post
The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.Comment
SO DAMN SATISFYING SEEING THAT.
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