Naby Keita

[danperkins]

I can only assume that this genuinely bizarre rush to defend him is because the loss is still fresh and people are still a bit spikey. In fairness though, it was a pretty hilarious miss for any pro footballer & a **** load of people actually burst out laughing in the pub I was in, so eh chill out lads it's not like he's going to be here much longer anyways

Also, there is no ****ing way he is 27. Give him at least 41 or 42 ish

[rodo]

Bang average and that`s being kind

[Tribute]

Keita was injury prone for large parts of his first couple of seasons here and then he couldn't get into the team on a regular basis when he was finally fit.

He blows very hot and cold though - sometimes he can look like the proverbial competition winner and other times he looks skilful, aggressive and totally 'on it'...

Like Frank says, if he's the saviour of the midfield to cover/switch between Hendo and Thiago next season... that's a huge risk. When others have a bad game, he tends to follow suit. We need a Tchouameni or similar... a consistent 8/10 midfield performer who can shoot with accuracy and not like an 11 year old with a 99p garage football...

[Fredo]

We have no idea if Tchouameni (or whoever you guys watch on FIFA) will cut it over here. I remember when we signed Naby, it was guaranteed he would light up the PL like no other midfielder.

I'm more interested in what our manager thinks of Keita. Pretty sure he had a good laugh when he missed that shot as well, because it was that funny!

[rudedog]

I’m just confused why the response to people mentioning how brutally bad that shot was was to frame it as though people held him responsible for us losing the final. That was a weird jump with logic that I can’t follow. Then we have tried to make it clear that it was the shot we were criticising, then the response is ‘why are you talking so much about the shot?’

Ok, seems this is directed at me so I'll respond.

It wasn't people just 'mentioning' his bad shot, that was done in the match thread and was fine. Bumping the player thread with the same thing is going beyond 'mentioning'.

[danperkins]

Ok, seems this is directed at me so I'll respond.

It wasn't people just 'mentioning' his bad shot, that was done in the match thread and was fine. Bumping the player thread with the same thing is going beyond 'mentioning'.

Ok, seems this is directed at me so I'll respond.

That shot warranted a thread bumping

[danperkins]

Bang average and that`s being kind

yup

[Fierce]

Ok, seems this is directed at me so I'll respond.

That shot warranted a thread bumping

Really tho

That shot

[Buzzo]

I swore heavily in front of my Dad when that shot hit row Z.

With Naby, we have to compare to his equivalent at City in terms of what they are doing off the bench. They threw on Gundogan and he won them the League. That chance was a moment where Naby coulld have become a legend, it wasnt a sitter obviously but it was a great opening. Who ever the ball had come to in that moment would have had to deliver. For me he takes a touch and curls it towards the other corner.

We need midfielders coming off the bench and winning matches for us. Building on the solid 65 mins that has gone in before. The outcome in this instance could not have been worse.

[Mark79]

I swore heavily in front of my Dad when that shot hit row Z.

With Naby, we have to compare to his equivalent at City in terms of what they are doing off the bench. They threw on Gundogan and he won them the League. That chance was a moment where Naby coulld have become a legend, it wasnt a sitter obviously but it was a great opening. Who ever the ball had come to in that moment would have had to deliver. For me he takes a touch and curls it towards the other corner.

We need midfielders coming off the bench and winning matches for us. Building on the solid 65 mins that has gone in before. The outcome in this instance could not have been worse.

This is such a wild and forced comparison. Gundogan scored 2 from a combined 5 yards

It was a woeful effort, but it was not a particularly great chance. And that apart, Keita was good in the short time he was on. Also, he only came on in the 77th minute, not 65. Are you thinking of Jota?

[Zapater]

I actually don't have a problem with the shot at all. If it had gone it we'd have been calling him a genius. He scored a goal against Atletico with that exact same technique, he clearly has it in his locker and backed himself. If players are hounded for playing their game and not getting it right all the time, I'm not sure there's any point of them showing up.

It's an archaic mentality that the way things look should be assessed. It's either a goal or it's not. If he lashed it with his laces and it hit the crossbar, the result would have been no different. Henderson hit some awful shots in the game, that volley which he hit wide wouldn't have hit two goals if they were sat side by side. I haven't seen anyone singling that out, where that missed by a lot more, regardless of the perceived "comical" value.

I thought him and Bobby improved the play a lot when they came on and found a little space between the lines in midfield. Something which we didn't do before then. Not a great performance but hardly the end of the world. Again, as I've said in the match thread if we played the exact same game and won no one would be crying or pointing fingers, it's just the way sports go sometimes, if things don't work out on the day you lose. The mass panic and supposed learning about the character of players etc. is laughable, it's the same players who have won almost every game this season, unfortunately this one wasn't to be, it happens. I get the disappointment, I am too but so confused how the same players have suddenly become poor overnight in the eyes of many.

Guess this is the new 'Aspas corner'.

[Mark79]

I actually don't have a problem with the shot at all. If it had gone it we'd have been calling him a genius. He scored a goal against Atletico with that exact same technique, he clearly has it in his locker and backed himself. If players are hounded for playing their game and not getting it right all the time, I'm not sure there's any point of them showing up.

It's an archaic mentality that the way things look should be assessed. It's either a goal or it's not. If he lashed it with his laces and it hit the crossbar, the result would have been no different. Henderson hit some awful shots in the game, that volley which he hit wide wouldn't have hit two goals if they were sat side by side. I haven't seen anyone singling that out, where that missed by a lot more, regardless of the perceived "comical" value.

I thought him and Bobby improved the play a lot when they came on and found a little space between the lines in midfield. Something which we didn't do before then. Not a great performance but hardly the end of the world. Again, as I've said in the match thread if we played the exact same game and won no one would be crying or pointing fingers, it's just the way sports go sometimes, if things don't work out on the day you lose. The mass panic and supposed learning about the character of players etc. is laughable, it's the same players who have won almost every game this season, unfortunately this one wasn't to be, it happens. I get the disappointment, I am too but so confused how the same players have suddenly become poor overnight in the eyes of many.

Guess this is the new 'Aspas corner'.

[Buzzo]

This is such a wild and forced comparison. Gundogan scored 2 from a combined 5 yards

The comparison is in someone coming on and delivering in a big moment.

None of our subs did that.

[baitman]

I actually don't have a problem with the shot at all. If it had gone it we'd have been calling him a genius. He scored a goal against Atletico with that exact same technique, he clearly has it in his locker and backed himself. If players are hounded for playing their game and not getting it right all the time, I'm not sure there's any point of them showing up.

It's an archaic mentality that the way things look should be assessed. It's either a goal or it's not. If he lashed it with his laces and it hit the crossbar, the result would have been no different. Henderson hit some awful shots in the game, that volley which he hit wide wouldn't have hit two goals if they were sat side by side. I haven't seen anyone singling that out, where that missed by a lot more, regardless of the perceived "comical" value.

I thought him and Bobby improved the play a lot when they came on and found a little space between the lines in midfield. Something which we didn't do before then. Not a great performance but hardly the end of the world. Again, as I've said in the match thread if we played the exact same game and won no one would be crying or pointing fingers, it's just the way sports go sometimes, if things don't work out on the day you lose. The mass panic and supposed learning about the character of players etc. is laughable, it's the same players who have won almost every game this season, unfortunately this one wasn't to be, it happens. I get the disappointment, I am too but so confused how the same players have suddenly become poor overnight in the eyes of many.

Guess this is the new 'Aspas corner'.

If it was anywhere near the goal then fair enough, they can't always be on target.
I suppose a blind man will eventually hit the bullseye given enough time.

[Buzzo]

I actually don't have a problem with the shot at all. If it had gone it we'd have been calling him a genius. He scored a goal against Atletico with that exact same technique, he clearly has it in his locker and backed himself. If players are hounded for playing their game and not getting it right all the time, I'm not sure there's any point of them showing up.

It's an archaic mentality that the way things look should be assessed. It's either a goal or it's not. If he lashed it with his laces and it hit the crossbar, the result would have been no different. Henderson hit some awful shots in the game, that volley which he hit wide wouldn't have hit two goals if they were sat side by side. I haven't seen anyone singling that out, where that missed by a lot more, regardless of the perceived "comical" value.

I thought him and Bobby improved the play a lot when they came on and found a little space between the lines in midfield. Something which we didn't do before then. Not a great performance but hardly the end of the world. Again, as I've said in the match thread if we played the exact same game and won no one would be crying or pointing fingers, it's just the way sports go sometimes, if things don't work out on the day you lose. The mass panic and supposed learning about the character of players etc. is laughable, it's the same players who have won almost every game this season, unfortunately this one wasn't to be, it happens. I get the disappointment, I am too but so confused how the same players have suddenly become poor overnight in the eyes of many.

Guess this is the new 'Aspas corner'.

That sums it up overall for me. I thought we played well. Thats why it is such a sore one to lose. I certaianly am not reevaluating the performance of a squad that only lost 4 games in a season, they have been incredible. Just frustrating that in the biggest game of the season we couldnt get it across the line.

I rate Naby fwiw, but he could do with a 'moment'.