Darwin Núñez

[danperkins]

I think with Nunez, and this is absolutely not his fault, if he wasn't bought for such an astronomical figure his failings wouldn't be so widely discussed

People said the same about Keita but unfortunately if you are bought for big money, with that comes big expectation and you will be under scrutiny. We've said exactly the same things about the likes of Anthony, Sancho, Caicedo, Enzo, Havertz etc. The fees aren't their fault either but if you are not providing the value for money, it's going to be widely discussed.

[Norbs]

There must also be a correlation between transfer fee and wages, so he's earning the big money and should deliver on that

[Exiled_red]

Apparently deleted all his LFC content from social media after getting a load of abuse

[Kenneth]

That’s a shame. I’ll have to repost it all under this Uruguay content now.

[Harv]

Apparently deleted all his LFC content from social media after getting a load of abuse

Not surprised. The twitter brainlets basically blaming our late season collapse on him.

[Cerbie]

That’s a shame. I’ll have to repost it all under this Uruguay content now.

[Buzzo]

I’ve no idea why any pro footballer would

A. Read anything mentioning them on social media.
B. Handle their social media themselves.

I doubt Darwin has been near his socials other than to instruct.

[Buzzo]

In terms of constructive criticism (Sturridge also offered some recently) this increasingly looks bang on.

[ame]https://twitter.com/gotta__chill/status/1778749637845029282[/ame]

[Cerbie]

I’ve no idea why any pro footballer would

A. Read anything mentioning them on social media.
B. Handle their social media themselves.

I doubt Darwin has been near his socials other than to instruct.

For the younger ones that’s easier said than done. One of the young Aberdeen players was out with his girlfriend yesterday for May Day Sunday, which is a big day out up here. Ended up getting dogs abuse on social media and had to go home early. It is actually very difficult to avoid because all your friends and family will see it even if you are not actively looking for the content yourself.

Can you imagine the grief the Spice Boys would have got if social media was a thing in the early ‘ops.

[Cerbie]

In terms of constructive criticism (Sturridge also offered some recently) this increasingly looks bang on.

https://twitter.com/gotta__chill/sta...49637845029282

There’s a great player in there, we have seen glimpses of it between the poor decision making. It’s just a question of can we wait for him to finesse his trade, or do we need someone to replace Mo’s goals now?

[Buzzo]

It’s all on Edwards now really - stick or twist.

A new manager seems imperative for Darwin more than for any other player. It will be interesting to see if that with us or not. My son told me PSG are interested. I reckon he would absolutely tear it up in France.

[BG1973]

Twist. He's a good footballer but a very poor finisher.

No team trying to win titles can carry a poor finishing centre forward.

[Doc_Piptorious]

Twist. He's a good footballer but a very poor finisher.

No team trying to win titles can carry a poor finishing centre forward.

Man City won the league in 2020/21 with a midfielder who got 13 league goals as their top scorer.


Their number 9 that season ended up with 9 league goals.



In 2021/22 they again won the league with the top scorer in the league again being another midfielder who got 15 league goals and their number 9 that season got 8 league goals.


So not only did they carry a low scoring number 9, they also had no single player getting 20 goals in the league in either season.


Arsenal this season are very much in the title race without a high scoring centre forward. Their top scorer is Saka with 16 goals and next highest is Havertz on 12. They are also, as a team, the top scorers in the PL so far this season with 88 goals.


That's just three recent/current examples in the PL of teams in the hunt for or winning the title without a single high scoring centre forward/striker.

It can and does get done, it just requires the rest of the team to be geared around a lot of players getting a modest amount of goals apiece.

[red g]

Man City won the league in 2020/21 with a midfielder who got 13 league goals as their top scorer.


Their number 9 that season ended up with 9 league goals.



In 2021/22 they again won the league with the top scorer in the league again being another midfielder who got 15 league goals and their number 9 that season got 8 league goals.


So not only did they carry a low scoring number 9, they also had no single player getting 20 goals in the league in either season.


Arsenal this season are very much in the title race without a high scoring centre forward. Their top scorer is Saka with 16 goals and next highest is Havertz on 12. They are also, as a team, the top scorers in the PL so far this season with 88 goals.


That's just three recent/current examples in the PL of teams in the hunt for or winning the title without a single high scoring centre forward/striker.

It can and does get done, it just requires the rest of the team to be geared around a lot of players getting a modest amount of goals apiece.

If a team is set up to score goals throughout the team it works, But would they have won the league if they had Darwin in there missing all the chances?

[Doc_Piptorious]

If a team is set up to score goals throughout the team it works, But would they have won the league if they had Darwin in there missing all the chances?

I'm not saying Darwin is or is not the key to anything. That particular chat has been done to death and usually ignores the middle ground that lies between Nunez is utterly useless and Nunez is really great.


I am just showing that there are recent examples of teams fighting for titles in England and winning titles there that were and are carrying low scoring number nines and/or low scoring centre forwards.


There are a number of recent examples in other leagues too, but furgured sticking with the Premier League made more sense.

As for would they have won the leagues or competed for them with Darwin in their teams.....they might well have done so as City in Jesus had a guy that tended to create more chances than he put away (though fully fit I think Jesus is a much better all round player than Darwin and that Jesus could have been a good Bobby replacement if we wanted another false nine type as I think Jesus has the skill set for that sort of role albeit in a different style to Bobby).


Arsenal this season have used Havertz in the Nine role a lot of the time and plenty were making jokes about how many chances Havertz spurned and calling him crap and what not, yet he is again a regular part of a title chasing team. Is Havertz contributing or is he being carried? All I know is that his goal and assist return is almost identical to that of Nunez.

Havertz being involved in 21 league goals (12 goals and 9 assists) and Nunez being involved in 22 league goals (11 goals and 11 assists)

So yeah I think both City and Arsenal could have "carried" Darwin Nunez.


What I will add to all of that is that when it comes to Slot he does tend to have his teams rely a lot of there being one main goal scorer though the season they won the league title their main goal scorer scored less and the rest of the team chipped in more with goals.