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    Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
    Hmm.

    He might be clean.

    But it's all very unsatisfactory.


    Whether Contador's clean or not, I want Andy Schleck to win Le Tour this year.
    On the Ning Nang Nong
    Where the Cows go Bong!
    And the Monkeys all say Boo!
    There's a Nong Nang Ning
    Where the trees go Ping!
    And the tea pots Jibber Jabber Joo.
    On the Nong Ning Nang
    All the mice go Clang!
    And you just can't catch 'em when they do!
    So it's Ning Nang Nong!
    Cows go Bong!
    Nong Nang Ning!
    Trees go Ping!
    Nong Ning Nang!
    The mice go clang!
    What a noisy place to belong,
    Is the Ning Nang Ning Nang Nong!!

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      Cycling Weekly's explanation of Contador's defence. It's actually quite interesting and not the weaselly words that usually emanate from the camp of suspected doping cheats.

      Contador's lawyer explains U-turn over proposed ban

      Thursday, 24 February 2011 Cycling Weekly



      Alberto Contador's lawyer has explained how the Tour winner was able to escape any bans for doping - although possible appeals are still pending - despite clenbuterol, a banned substance, being found in his system last July after he ate a beefsteak he says was contaminated with the drug.

      In an interview with the Independent newspaper, Andy Ramos points out that the initial year ban "was no more than a prosecutor's proposal.", rather than a definitive verdict.
      "it was wrongly thought that a year's ban was an actual sentence, and that the Spanish cycling federation was then influenced by political pressure in Spain [to reduce it]. But that proposal was not legally binding."

      Ramos then lists the indirect evidence that he says helped clear Contador including the extremely low level of clenbuterol testing amongst cattle in Europe, citing a European regulation.

      "We showed that the testing for clenbuterol [in livestock] is not infallible in Europe," Ramos told The Independent.

      "There is a European Union norm - 96/23/CE, dating from 1996 - which states that only 0.25 per cent of cattle should be tested for clenbuterol. So 99.75 per cent are not."

      "During the very same period the Spanish Ministry of Agriculture says that there have been no positives for clenbuterol in [Spanish] cattle. But we've shown that the police have gone on arresting people for using clenbuterol and other banned substances in their livestock."

      As for the source of the beef itself, "The Basque Government gave us three possibilities [of different cattle], and curiously enough, the owner of the one that was most likely to be it is in partnership with his brother, who was penalised a few years back for using clenbuterol."

      The article speculates too, that the Contador verdict - if it stands - could renew the pressure on the authorities to establish athletes' guilt in the case of positives, rather than the athletes having to prove their innocence if they believe they are wrongly accused, as can currently happen.

      http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/...posed-ban.html
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      Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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        Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
        Is it a sportive and how long/difficult is it?
        Here is a link to last year's event - http://www.qld.cycling.org.au/site/c...TdT-Vers-1.pdf
        Was muß, das muß.

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          That's cool. It looks fun and surely June is far enough off to get enough training in by then. Go on, have a go!
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          Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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            Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
            That's cool. It looks fun and surely June is far enough off to get enough training in by then. Go on, have a go!
            Yeah why not! I'm 96kg now and I want to aim for 92kg in time for that race. I might just go for one stage for the hell of it.

            Have you raced or done any sportives?
            Was muß, das muß.

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              Good man.

              Never raced but I have done a few sportives. Slowly. They're good fun and it makes you feel like you're riding 'properly' (like a professional I suppose) even though you're not really. It's a good way to ride new roads because they've been selected on the grounds they make for a good route to ride and you don't have to navigate for yourself. And you get feed stations and most have a broom wagon so you're not stuck if you or your bike give out halfway round.

              I'm just starting to try to get into shape for a local sportive here, for what will be my third year in succession. Year 1 was good, year 2 was terrible (although I retired after 111km it was only due to a problem with my cleats) and year 3, well, we'll see. I've moved up an age band from last year so can get better result even with the same time as before. There aren't many advantages in turning 109 but that's one of them.
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              Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                It was a fantastic last hour of racing in Paris-Nice today.

                Looking forward to the rest of the week plus highlights of Strade Bianchi on Wednesday followed by 6 days of Tirreno-Adriatico.



                TFFC
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                Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                  Another good finish today in Paris-Nice.
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                  Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                    Paris-Nice was really exciting.

                    Milan-San Remo tomorrow.

                    Garmin-Cervelo must be favourites - Haussler and Hushovd are both in great form. Cavendish hasn't looked right so far this season. Perhaps he's been sandbagging but I doubt it.
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                    Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                      clearly a mistake with the rating in here

                      i officially re rate it one star

                      mods make it happen.

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                        What a great race yesterday. Loads of action.

                        The Track Worlds start on Wednesday, highlights of Gent-Wevelgem and Criterium International on Sunday early evening and a week later it's the Tour of Flanders.

                        But all that can wait as we've got the joys of a dull match with Sunderland to look forward to today.
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                        Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                          3 Days of De Panne is on this week.
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                          Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                            Today: Tour of Flanders.
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                            Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                              Great race today. Cancellara was awesome of course but this time couldn't quite do it.

                              Tomorrow: Tour of the Basque Country.
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                              Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                                The Basque Tour has had some great racing so far. Interesting courses with big climbs and very short (2 or 3km) descents from the last summit to the finish.

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                                Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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