MMA thread

[badpiggy]

So the defence rests?

[Nicey]

Riddled with factual inaccuracies, badly written tosh, I really cannot be arsed to address the endless list of bollix in any of the above

[fidget]

That's a terrible article

[badpiggy]

Khabib Nurmagomedov is a ****ing beast he gets his hands on you and you are ****ed ..his last fight was against the current champ .....He Won ... He's 22 wins and has never lost a professional fight
He is multiple world combat sambo champion, He is European Army Hand to Hand Combat Champion, He is BJJ no gi World Champion
He holds the current UFC record for most takedowns in one fight 21 ****ing times

He is has the strength of a middleweight, he,s Russian and he wears a fuzzy ****ing hat ... He is the baddest mother ****er alive ... He would cause McGregor a ****ing lot of problems

Khabib Nurmagomedov in UFC highlights - YouTube

Jesus christ - at 3 mins he's holding a guys head in one hand and battering him with the other as the ref just watches. wtf??? This "sport" repulses me as much as it can excite. Definitely appeals to the darker part of human nature. And something I find particularly unpleasant as someone from Ireland is the crowds that will follow McGregor. Knuckle dragging ****wits who will perpetuate every possible Irish stereotype and will will switch a whole new set of people of the the "mad Irish". The drunken, puking ole ole brigade. And all thinking they're hard men cos of what they're now into

Anyway, here's an article - clearly a set up to give a counter to the canonisation of McGregor - but there's undoubtedly interesting points in there:

[quoteConor McGregor the top rooster in a backstreet chicken hut, the overblown king of a pretty small hill

The question of his actual sporting achievement is much more debatable. Last Sunday morning, Irish time, he became world featherweight champion in that sphere of mixed martial arts controlled by governing body UFC.

The Ultimate Fighting Championship was launched in 1993. In 2001, it was bought by an obscure boxing promoter named Dana White, in partnership with two Las Vegas businessmen. Shunned by television and banned in most American states, UFC was close to bankruptcy at the time.

One of its early pioneers was light heavyweight champion Chuck Liddell. UFC "had image problems, economic problems, competitive problems and management problems," writes Liddell in his autobiography Iceman.

McGregor took up mixed martial arts (MMA) in 2006. Prior to that he'd spent a few undistinguished years in amateur boxing. He made his MMA debut in February 2007, after which he turned professional. He competed in 14 bouts over the next five years, mostly in Ireland, mainly against Irish opponents. His longest fight lasted over nine minutes, his shortest five seconds. His total time spent in the Octagon (a cage) was some 45 minutes. In February 2013, Dana White offered him a UFC contract. In April, he made his UFC debut.

A single full-length fight in professional boxing will last 36 minutes. McGregor, in other words, had fought the equivalent of 15 rounds of pro boxing when UFC offered him his big break. This would tend to confirm that UFC did indeed have "competitive problems". It simply lacked the competitive depth to be found in most established international sports. The sport was, and still is, in its infancy. In signing for UFC, McGregor wasn't throwing himself in at the deep end. He was swimming in a shallow pool.

And virtually every other professional sport demands a deep foundation. Normally a pro golfer, tennis player or soccer player will have started learning the skills in childhood. He or she will have completed the requisite 10,000 hours by the age of 18.

McGregor's apprenticeship only began at 18. He had no foundation in MMA to speak of. He set about learning it hard and fast over the next five years, but success in UFC did not require 10,000 hours of practice since childhood. It didn't have the global factory system of the traditional sports, with their long-established clubs supplying the thousands of contenders - and the elite few who converge at the apex of this deep, wide pyramid.

Instead, being a mongrel amalgam of various sporting disciplines, UFC gathered up its contenders wherever it could find them: Brazilian jiu-jitsu, wrestling, boxing, kickboxing, judo and other combat sports. It was into this frontier organisation that McGregor arrived in 2013, with his 45 minutes' total fight-time in the Octagon.

After a mere six fights he received his title shot against José Aldo, last weekend in Vegas. Aldo was not standing on the shoulders of giants either: he was the UFC's first and only featherweight champion. McGregor took him out with a single punch on 13 seconds. By other international standards, the Dubliner had climbed a very short ladder to the top.

With Aldo concussed and unable to defend himself, McGregor hit him - twice - with what the commentators called a "hammer fist": a full chop-down onto Aldo's exposed face.

On the undercard earlier that night, various fighters had been pinned to the floor by their opponents and pummelled into the face over and over and over. If the man on top felt his fists weren't sufficiently damaging, he used his forearms for variety: forearm smash after forearm smash into a face already crimson with blood.

The United States senator and former presidential candidate John McCain once described UFC combat as "human cockfighting". And the fights indeed tend to be nasty, brutish and short.

There will always be a mob available to witness human violence and degradation. But UFC seems to be picking up a college-educated, middle-class constituency in its fanbase too.

The American writer Chuck Palahniuk traced this phenomenon in his 1996 novel Fight Club, later adapted for a film that starred Brad Pitt. One of its main themes concerns the suburban young man, enfeebled by his safe, pasteurised existence and looking for some sort of masculine authenticity in unlicensed violence. UFC is licensed violence but it seems to be meeting this need among its many middle-class fanboys.

Maybe, too, McGregor's magnificently sculpted physique also forms part of the attraction for a generation of gym-going young men, seemingly in thrall to some idealised image of a masculine physical aesthetic.

Whatever his core appeal, McGregor is lucratively surfing a big wave in the contemporary pop culture. But in comparison to other global sports he is world champion of a very shrunken universe. If he is world class in anything, it is as a salesman. He is handsomely selling a rather ugly game.

Strip away the money, the television lights, the shock and awe of its marketing: UFC doesn't have a history but it has very long roots in back alleys and bar rooms. It is basically bareknuckle boxing and chip shop brawling.

McGregor is the top rooster in a backstreet chicken hut, the overblown king of a pretty small hill.

Sunday Indo Sport][/quote]

http://www.independent.ie/sport/mma/conor-mcgregor-the-top-rooster-in-a-backstreet-chicken-hut-the-overblown-king-of-a-pretty-small-hill-34301429.html

[fidget]

So what odds are you laying me then?

[Nicey]

Baby wrestling

Its on late but well worth staying up for

[Assassin]

Baby wrestling

[Nicey]

Is Nicey actually choosing another fighter over his boyfriend, McGregor

I just like watching grown men beat the living **** out of each other in a cage ..and have done for a very long time, I backed McGregor from day one .. I backed Wiedman from day one, I'm backing Nurmagomedov

Styles make fights ... the fact of the matter is McGregor in that feather weight division is a Bully, he fears nobody, up another 10KG its a different story, I still think he deals with most of that light weight division, but people like Ferguson and Nurmagomedov are a whole different ball game all together, Fegruson is one tough son of bitch and hes extremely technical with no obvious weakness, that would be a very very tough fight... he is also a bigger man
Nurmagomedov will just eat a punch take him to the ground and beat the living **** out of him and everybody else, like he has been doing all his career .. he has bear strength that you only get by wrestling since you were a baby ... watch this [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsNVM6JOoFY"]5 Rounds: Robin's Breakdown of Khabib Nurmagomedov and Yoel Romero's Elite Wrestling - YouTube[/ame]

[Nicey]

How about we play who will have the strap in 2016

Fly : Johnson - Johnson
Bantam Dilishaw - Cruz
Feather – McGregor – McGregor (Holloway if they make him vacate )
Light- Dos Anjos - Nurmagomedov
Welter Lawler – MacDonald
Middle –Rockhold – Rockhold
Light Heavy – Cormier – Jones
Heavy Werdum – Overeem

[Nicey]

Im guessing this...



And the fight his last fight was April 2014

respectfully ... he is a professional fighter, they all get injured . all of the time .. I could apply the same injury inspection to Conor

He suffered a knee injury ... and re injured it again ... then he cracked a rib .. hardly made out of bubble gum ..

He is a beast .. honestly I cannot see anybody beating him .. if Conor was smart he would avoid him for as long as possible

[meffin]

based on what ?

Im guessing this...

Nurmagomedov was briefly linked to a bout with Donald Cerrone on September 27, 2014 at UFC 178. However, the pairing was quickly scrapped after it was revealed that Nurmagomedov had suffered a knee injury

Nurmagomedov was expected to face Donald Cerrone on May 23, 2015 at UFC 187.[34] However, Nurmagomedov pulled out of the bout on April 30 due to a knee injury. He was replaced by John Makdessi.

Numagomedov was expected to face Tony Ferguson on December 11, 2015 at The Ultimate Fighter 22 Finale. However, Nurmagomedov pulled out of the fight in late October citing another injury and was replaced by Edson Barboza.

And the fight his last fight was April 2014

[meffin]

Is Nicey actually choosing another fighter over his boyfriend, McGregor

[fidget]

Why would he stand and trade with McGregor ... "he" would ragdoll McGregor ... I am telling you he got his hands on you and Conor would be thinking sweet **** ... and then he would fly through the air this ****er gets on on top of you and its a warm blanket of pain ... he is also tough as nails and could take a very serious punch .. hes Like Chad Mendes on Horse Steroids with Russian Military Training and those cunts do not **** about

Sorry I totally misread your post mate
But if you're happy to lay decent odds I'll happily lump on McGregor.

[Nicey]

Here is a great interview with him and a great show to get a feel for the fight camps and whats goes on behind the scenes
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2krmF8QMa3k"]The MMA Hour: Episode 309 w/ Kavanagh, Portal, Pettis, Namajunas, Nurmagomedov & more - YouTube[/ame]

[Nicey]

Hes a nightmare for McGregor and he would almost certainly beat him, if that is his injury, heals properly ... I think its only his ribs so it most likely will