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    #16
    Best England bowling attack ever?

    Having grimaced through the era of Tim Munton and Martin McCague, Ian Salisbury and Peter Such, I have to pinch myself from time to time.

    How did England's bowling attack, for so long the preserve of journeyman seamers and spinners unworthy of applying Shane Warne's hair lacquer, become the envy of world cricket?

    In the past an injury to a key bowler would have severely dented England's chances, but when Tim Bresnan's troublesome elbow forced him into an early departure from Pakistan, selectors were able to call on Graham Onions, a more than handy fast bowler who was sharing new-ball duties with James Anderson before he suffered a career-threatening back injury two years ago.

    With Anderson and Stuart Broad nailed on to start the first Test on Tuesday, Onions will compete for the third seamer's berth with Chris Tremlett (49 Test wickets at 25.7) and Steve Finn, who was firing the cherry down at 94mph in the recent one-day series in India.

    Throw Graeme Swann’s world-class off spin into the mix - with Monty Panesar as a more than capable stand-in - and you have a pretty lethal cocktail, and one that most of England’s recent opponents have found decidedly difficult to stomach.

    Former England seam bowler Angus Fraser believes the current crop are worthy of comparison with any England attack in recent memory.
    “I think it could be the best England bowling attack in my lifetime,” says Fraser, who took 177 Test wickets at 27.32 between 1989 and 1998.

    “You could argue that they haven't had to bowl against any of the great Australian batting line-ups but then again, they destroyed a very good Indian order last summer.

    “They are ruthless. When they get a scent of blood they go for it. It can’t have been much fun for the likes of [India batsmen] Suresh Raina and Yuvraj Singh last summer when England really did go after them.

    “It was pretty brutal stuff but that is what international sport it all about. You are not out there to make friends on the field, you are there to turn them over."

    Turning teams over is something England have become rather good at of late. In their last 13 Tests, they have won seven by an innings, testimony in part to the batsmen’s ability to rack up huge totals, but also to the skill, discipline and relentless determination of their bowlers.

    In Anderson, Swann and Broad, England have three of the top four bowlers in the ICC Test rankings, while Bresnan and Tremlett are ranked 13th and 14th in the table. No other Test side has more than two players in the top 15.

    England have had great bowling units in the past of course, the Fred Trueman, Brian Statham, Trevor Bailey, Jim Laker and Tony Lock breed of the late 1950s springs to mind, or the Ashes-winning sides of 1971-72 or 2005.

    But too often in recent decades, their attack has been less a coherent arsenal and more a diverse collection of weapons all firing in different directions and very rarely hitting the target at the same time.

    These days the targets are not just being hit, they are being shattered; the sight of an iconic Indian batman trudging back to the pavilion with his stumps rearranged proving one of the recurring images of last summer.

    Thanks to some long-term thinking by the England & Wales Cricket Board, players such as Broad and Finn have been brought in to the national team set-up at an early age and developed as bowlers and athletes by England's unrivalled team of specialist coaches.

    In an interview in August, Broad put the success of the current generation down to a sense of collective responsibility, arguing that the bowlers, unlike some of their predecessors, take as much pleasure in each other’s success as their own.

    “When I was a kid and a fan, I got the impression at times that Darren Gough and Andy Caddick were almost competing against each other to take wickets,” he said. “We put pressure on together and squeeze the opposition as a pack.”

    It is an argument with which the dependable Fraser - who spent much of his career surrounded by the more mercurial talents of Devon Malcolm, Chris Lewis and Phil Tufnell - is inclined to agree with.

    “I think there is a greater togetherness in this team than there was in previous generations, but a lot of that has to do with central contracts and the fact that players can feel secure because they know that they will be involved,” he said.

    “In the old days you always felt you were potentially two games away from getting axed.

    “That led to a lot of competitiveness. I didn’t mind how many wickets any other England bowler got as long as I got one more than them.

    “There were a couple of spikey occurrences in my career, when someone wanted to be the main man, but in this England side everyone is very comfortable with where they sit. There is loyalty and consistency, but also an understanding of where everyone is.”

    As England prepare to embark on a testing 2012 programme that features away series against Pakistan and Sri Lanka, home contests with West Indies and South Africa, and a tour of India, the supremacy of their pace unit may well be something to enjoy while it lasts.

    With Australia, South Africa and India all unearthing exciting young seamers in recent months, Fraser believes we could be in for another golden age of Test match fast bowlers.

    “We had an era of wonderful fast bowlers with Glenn McGrath and [Jason] Gillespie, the Windies, Waqar Younis and Wasim Akram, Allan Donald and Shaun Pollock. And then there was a little lull, where no one seemed to be producing world-class quicks.

    “But now it seems to be changing. Pakistan are always finding high quality fast bowlers from somewhere, Australia have got two or three exciting young bowlers, South Africa have Morne Morkel and Vernon Philander to back up Dale Steyn and even India have Ishant Sharma and Umesh Yadav.

    “There are potentially a lot of good fast bowlers around but England are further on in the cycle at the moment.

    “They are experienced, have better records and are more consistent, which is one of the principal reasons why they are top of the rankings.”

    Can they stay there? We're about to find out.
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      #17
      Great article. Thanks Chrono.

      It's the best attack I've seen (And I am old!) because injuries are seamlessly replaced and they genuinely work together as a team - points that the article makes better than I!

      What do you think?

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        #18
        Originally posted by Keith View Post
        Great article. Thanks Chrono.




        Best attack I have seen but then I am 33 and haven't had much to work with

        The one thing that strikes me about this group is that they are all different, if that makes sense

        I mean they don't all bowl in the same manner, Anderson swings it, Broad and Tremlett get bounce and movement, Finn is very quick, Bresnan and Onions bowl wicket to wicket with great accuracy. Then Swann turns the ball further than any English spinner I can remember.

        Everyone of those bowlers is capable of taking a 5fer

        Previous teams, in my memory, have only really had one front line wicket taking bowler be it Fraser, Gough, even Caddick for a period but had not much else.

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          #19
          The bowling attack of Harmison, Hoggard, Flintoff, Jones and Giles was outstanding BUT they only really fired as a unit for the one series before injuries, age and chronic loss of form did for them.

          ATM we seem to be producing a conveyor belt of top quality seamers like the Aussies and Windies did in their heyday.

          Add to that we have the rather useful backup spinner in Panesar and we have a bowling attack that is to be feared on all types of wicket around the world.

          Makes a pleasant change from having to wistfully admire all the other bowling attacks

          Edit: Apologies 'Chazza' - Don't know where that came from!
          Last edited by Keith; 13-01-12, 09:49 PM. Reason: Senility!

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            #20
            Originally posted by Chazza1978 View Post




            Best attack I have seen but then I am 33 and haven't had much to work with

            The one thing that strikes me about this group is that they are all different, if that makes sense

            I mean they don't all bowl in the same manner, Anderson swings it, Broad and Tremlett get bounce and movement, Finn is very quick, Bresnan and Onions bowl wicket to wicket with great accuracy. Then Swann turns the ball further than any English spinner I can remember.

            Everyone of those bowlers is capable of taking a 5fer

            Previous teams, in my memory, have only really had one front line wicket taking bowler be it Fraser, Gough, even Caddick for a period but had not much else.
            Agree we have strength in depth, but I disagree slightly with your description of Bresnan and Onions who I both see as back up for Anderson. Bresnan's batting is a big plus, but I think he struggles when it's not swinging in the same way Jimmy can do, but if anything a bit worse and in those conditions do you really need his batting anyway.

            I don't mean to do him a disservice, he is a fine cricketer and seemingly a good lad and popular in the dressing room with it. We are blessed with a fine group of bowlers.

            Only worry is when Swann retires or gets injured. Monty just did well in the final warm up game, but I'm not sure he's got it in him to be a consistent performer and match winner.
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              #21
              Well since I started this thread I'll stick my neck out with a few predictions

              England line up with Strauss, Cook, Trott, Pietersen, Bell, Morgan, Prior, Broad, Swann, Anderson and Finn. I think it pretty well picks itself as I think Flower will give the nod to Swann over Panesar, despite the latter's performance in the warm up game.

              Match prediction really depends on England's batting. Whenever a new series starts I always feel that the batting looks brittle and too dependent upon Cook, but then they proceed to rattle up scores in excess of 500!

              So recent (England Test) history would suggest either a draw or an England win. If the pitch offers any help to the seamers then England should win, but if it doesn't then I don't have enough faith in Swann's current form for him to pick up the necessary wickets to deliver the win.

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                #22
                Originally posted by captainfog View Post
                Agree we have strength in depth, but I disagree slightly with your description of Bresnan and Onions who I both see as back up for Anderson. Bresnan's batting is a big plus, but I think he struggles when it's not swinging in the same way Jimmy can do, but if anything a bit worse and in those conditions do you really need his batting anyway.

                I don't mean to do him a disservice, he is a fine cricketer and seemingly a good lad and popular in the dressing room with it. We are blessed with a fine group of bowlers.

                Only worry is when Swann retires or gets injured. Monty just did well in the final warm up game, but I'm not sure he's got it in him to be a consistent performer and match winner.
                Bresnan to me has always been a bowler who can tie down one end and give nothing away even when the ball isn't swinging, always accurate with a good economy rate, I do agree that his wicket taking threat is reduced with a lack of swing though

                As for the spinners the hope was for Rashid to make the step up as he can bat a bit aswell but he seems to have lost his way a bit with England over the last few years, still young enough to come back though

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                  #23
                  Shocking start 46-5 England

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                    #24
                    Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                      #25
                      Ajmals figures at Lunch 5.0 Overs 3 Maidens 5 Runs 3 Wickets

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                        #26
                        **** turn out, empty seats all over and some of the tickets were only £9

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                          #27
                          I've just heard Kevin Pieterson's batting being described as...

                          "he looked like a hen with eczema"

                          i own everton fans on the internet....that's what i do

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                            #28
                            This is the trouble when you dont play any test cricket for near on 6 months. Its one extreme to the other in Cricket at the moment. How do you expect the momentum too keep up. They steam rolled India.
                            *Except Michael, who died.

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                              #29
                              Nearly all batsman got out playing bad shots, the same shots that would have got them out in the other forms

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                                #30
                                82-6 Morgan gone

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