Boxing

[Doc_Piptorious]

I see Mayweather jr is back rehashing his "I'm better than Ali ever was" schtick


Hard to disagree with him if you judge it purely on technical ability and on being able to go from division to division whilst still winning titles, but I think he fails to grasp (or just chooses to ignore) the fact that Ali truly transcended the sport in a manner that no other boxer since has done.


Although if I were asked who the greatest boxer of all time was, and nothing outside the ring counted, then I think that neither Ali or Mayweather jr would be my shout.

Sugar Ray Robinson would probably be my choice as the greatest boxer of all time, as obvious a call as that is. He had technique that was decades ahead of his time, and physically he was the complete package. Speed, toughness, durability, power, reflexes, stamina, and ring smarts.

I still marvel at footage of his fights, and the footage of his training camps etc., are just as eye catching.

He ended up with 19 losses to his name by the time his career ended, but the majority of those came after he had turned 39. Plus he did take part in 200 professional fights

[RichC]

Tbf his record so far says he is.

[spud_gun]

Tbf his record so far says he is.

naw

[Fosterbloke]

I see Mayweather jr is back rehashing his "I'm better than Ali ever was" schtick


Hard to disagree with him if you judge it purely on technical ability and on being able to go from division to division whilst still winning titles, but I think he fails to grasp (or just chooses to ignore) the fact that Ali truly transcended the sport in a manner that no other boxer since has done.


Although if I were asked who the greatest boxer of all time was, and nothing outside the ring counted, then I think that neither Ali or Mayweather jr would be my shout.

Sugar Ray Robinson would probably be my choice as the greatest boxer of all time, as obvious a call as that is. He had technique that was decades ahead of his time, and physically he was the complete package. Speed, toughness, durability, power, reflexes, stamina, and ring smarts.

I still marvel at footage of his fights, and the footage of his training camps etc., are just as eye catching.

He ended up with 19 losses to his name by the time his career ended, but the majority of those came after he had turned 39. Plus he did take part in 200 professional fights

Boxing's Steven Gerrard then?

[Gibbo]

Showtime have really really tried their hardest to get a narrator that can emulate Schreiber, absolutely nowhere near.

Schreiber is ace at it, the HBO one was so much better.

[Doc_Piptorious]

Boxing's Steven Gerrard then?

Haha if Gerrard had been as good a footballer as Robinson was a boxer, then we would be talking about Gerrard as being a rival to the likes of Pele, Maradona, Carroll and Messi for the title of best ever.

[Doc_Piptorious]

Tbf his record so far says he is.

His record is impressive, but then again Robinson in his prime went on an undefeated streak of over 90 wins in a row.

[Fosterbloke]

Haha if Gerrard had been as good a footballer as Robinson was a boxer, then we would be talking about Gerrard as being a rival to the likes of Pele, Maradona, Carroll and Messi for the title of best ever.

oh I see..

PS. Isn't there a Klitschko fight on soon?

[Doc_Piptorious]

oh I see..

PS. Isn't there a Klitschko fight on soon?

Yep tonight against Bryant Jennings

[PTP]

You'll all fall asleep

Haha yep. We did exactly the same in my local for the Tyson Holyfield fight. Almost everyone was asleep ...including me.

I was woken up by one of the lads shoving his fingers right under my nose saying "smell that ****er". FFS. He'd been fingering a bird in the bogs.

50 doesnt seem a lot? How is it going to work, tickets only after what time? The fight wont start til gone 5am probably

Haha...probably will fall asleep, though I suspect there may be a few things floating sound to keep us all going..

Shaggy, true story....landlord is talking about having a raffle, £10 each in, money being spent on two "ring girls" for the night, winner of the raffle gets the key to the disabled toilets and half an hour with the ring girls I ****ing love my local

Liverpool, yeah apparantly 50 was all he was allowed to get a late license to show it. Basically, come last orders anyone without a ticket is out.

[spud_gun]

As long as one of the 'Ring Girls' isn't Kellie Maloney

[RichC]

His record is impressive, but then again Robinson in his prime went on an undefeated streak of over 90 wins in a row.

Watched the sugar Ray Robinson piece on sky again this morning for me he's the best ever. Ali liked to profess himself as the greatest but he wasn't, very very good of course but not at Ray Robinsons level.

[Shaggy]

As long as one of the 'Ring Girls' isn't Kellie Maloney

Half an hour in the bogs with the ring girls FFS ....do they have any say in the matter?

[Doc_Piptorious]

Watched the sugar Ray Robinson piece on sky again this morning for me he's the best ever. Ali liked to profess himself as the greatest but he wasn't, very very good of course but not at Ray Robinsons level.

Actually Ali has stated many times that he regarded Robinson as the best boxer/fighter of all time.

He often came out with a line that went something like this "I used to call myself the Greatest, but Ray Robinson was the greatest of all time"


Did not know there was a piece on Robinson on Sky today, was it a new piece or a repeat of an old one?

[Doc_Piptorious]

Half an hour in the bogs with the ring girls FFS ....do they have any say in the matter?

About as much say as the losers in the upcoming Jaco P promotion will have