It's a bit of an odd one. Roach said after his last fight that he thought Cotto could go back to welterweight even though he is reluctant to. Martinez hasn't been his best lately and his injuries surely means he's passed it. I can't imagine Cotto weighing much more than 155 or so if he trains correctly. Regardless how with the weight issues, those two in the ring together should be great. Will be interesting to see how Sergio will cope with the hook to the body, especially if his knees are a bit dodgy as it's probably the worst shot to be hit with when someone has knee issues.
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Originally posted by Zapater View PostThe guy's immense, pretty sad how he was received straight after winning his first title. Some say he can feel a bit hard done by in some ways, but what a fighter. His record speaks for himself. The string of successive victories and magnitude of fights before being given a shot at top level shows his persistence which many other elite boxers haven't needed to do.
Rumour has it, to this day he hasn't laced up a pair of gloves again post that Leonard bout. He's not my favourite, favourite middleweight as there's been so many good era's in the division, but I have great respect for him. It's also amazing how ambidextrous he was. To have footwork like that both orthodox and southpaw is truly unique.
Monzon was also relentless, the way he took apart Nino Benvenuti is pretty incredible.
That came from Hagler himself. Said he looked after himself, but never put on gloves again.
Is all ifs and buts, but would love to have seen what would have happened if Leonard had not pulled out of the earlier attempts to match him with Hagler. Looking back at footage of the Hagler- Leonard fight I can make a case for either to have won, but really do believe if they had met years before when they were originally meant to have done, that Hagler would have stopped Leonard late on.
Leonard was a world class fighter, but the Hagler of a few years before they met was something else. Really do think that Hagler would have found a way to stop Leonard and punish him along the way. The more mellowed (and slower) Hagler of 1987 was a very different man in ring. The concessions he made in order to get the fight to go ahead were very much out of character as well.
Could watch footage of him all day though, and there are few finer examples of a boxer who could fight/box equally well as an orthodox or as a southpaw.I don't hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around.
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Boxing promoter Bob Arum, who oversees the career of Manny Pacquiao, has launched a tirade towards Floyd Mayweather for the “disgraceful” way he has treated Amir Khan.
Arum told the Telegraph’s Gareth Davies that he feels Britain’s Khan will not get the lucrative fight with pound-for-pound king Mayweather that he has felt would be confirmed since last November.
Khan signed a deal to fight Floyd earlier this year only for confirmation of the bout to be stalled continuously.
Mayweather then published a poll on his website, asking fans whether they want to see him go up against Khan or Marcos Maidana on May 3.
Maidana impressively ended the unbeaten run of Adrien Broner at the tail end of last year, but was defeated by Khan via a unanimous decision back in 2010.
And Arum feels the stringing along of Khan by Mayweather – which is not the first time he has used his position in the sport to play gamesmanship during pre-fight planning – is an abuse of his power.
"What he has done to Amir Khan is absolutely disgraceful, whether he ends up fighting him, or he doesn't," Arum said from Macau, China, where his boxer, Zou Shiming, the former double Olympic gold medallist, fights this weekend.
"My feeling is he is not going to fight him, but it's disgraceful to do that to another human being because you are in a position to do that. Just because he has the power where you can do something like that.
"If a promoter did it, if a Bob Arum or a Frank Warren did it the press would be all over them. They have allowed Myweather to get away with this s***. It's terrible.
"They have twisted the kid in the wind. Mayweather should be ashamed of himself. He's not going to sign the contract. I think he will fight Maidana."
Arum suggests that Khan should at this stage just walk away from the promise of his biggest career payday before it is yanked from under his nose, anyway.
"Cut your ties with these people, be a man," he said.
"You were the great hope of England at one point. I have Olympic gold medal winners with me. The pride with which Vasyl Lomachenko and Zou Shiming carry themselves is astonishing."
Lomachenko, a double Olympic gold medallist who was one of the stars of London 2012, challenges Orlando Salido for the WBO featherweight title next weekend in only his second professional bout.
"These people will never be humiliated like that," Arum added. "Amir Khan has put himself in a position where he can be humiliated. He's like a laughing stock. Terrible. Absolutely terrible.
"He's not fighting back and telling these guys to get lost. Get another promoter, maybe go back to Frank Warren, get another opponent and tell them to p*** off."
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Amir Khan @AmirKingKhan 11m
No response from Mayweather or his team. Fights not happening. I should of taken the title fight last December against Alexander.
Amir Khan @AmirKingKhan 10m
Very disrespected by his team. Wasted my time
Amir Khan @AmirKingKhan 10m
Good luck to Maidana, against mayweather
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Yeah but come on Bob Arum has a point, regardless of his own standards. Khan has been treated pretty shabby by Mayweather. I think Mayweather is a great fighter. Dont think Khan would have beaten him but I think Manny in his pomp would have. But Mayweather has a knack of picking the right fighter at the right time
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I think Mayweather would do to Manny what he's done to everyone else, get into the fight for the first couple of rounds, work him out and then pick him apart for the following 10 rounds.
Khan wanted the fight and I get why he would as it's going to be a huge payday but he's not exactly done much to deserve the shot; Mayweather does pick and choose his fights these days but I guess you can argue he's earned the right to do so; Khan should get in the right as soon as possible now (10 months out of action) and get himself in the position where Mayweather has to fight him.
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Originally posted by Sarb View PostYeah but come on Bob Arum has a point, regardless of his own standards. Khan has been treated pretty shabby by Mayweather. I think Mayweather is a great fighter. Dont think Khan would have beaten him but I think Manny in his pomp would have. But Mayweather has a knack of picking the right fighter at the right time
Given what went on between Arum and Mayweather when Mayweather was part of Arum's stable, Arum is in no position to talk about treating people badly.
Bit rich for him to say Mayweather's treatment of people is disgraceful when his own treatment of Mayweather (and many many others) falls under the same heading.
Arum should stick to what he is good at, things like getting caught offering bribes and getting investigated by the FBI for his dealings, rather than talking rubbish.
I'm sure that Arum's comments have nothing to do with any hopes of Khan leaving Golden Boy promotions and going to Top Rank promotions.
Just a shame that many of the men who hold such sway over boxing are nothing more than a blight to the sport.I don't hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around.
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Can't believe no one has mentioned Curtis Woodhouse or Tommy Coyle
Was made up for Woodhouse - what a story! From professional footballer to fulfilling a promise to his late father by winning the British title and then retiring.
Tommy Coyle's fight was insane. They both knocked each other down four times and got points deducted before Coyle stopped him late on
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Originally posted by Mike View PostCan't believe no one has mentioned Curtis Woodhouse or Tommy Coyle
Was made up for Woodhouse - what a story! From professional footballer to fulfilling a promise to his late father by winning the British title and then retiring.
Tommy Coyle's fight was insane. They both knocked each other down four times and got points deducted before Coyle stopped him late on

Thought the comment Woodhouse made about the supposed bet he may or may not have placed on himself to win was a bit silly.
He came out with a I cannot confirm nor deny that I bet on myself type statement.
The rumour is that he placed a £5,000 bet on himself some time back to win the British title at odds of 50-1.
Brilliant for him personally though that he was able to win a title and then step away.
The Coyle-Brizuel was a ding dong scrap alright, but can see Coyle getting beaten badly if he gets put in with the better lightweights.Last edited by Doc_Piptorious; 24-02-14, 01:05 PM.I don't hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around.
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Yeah I seen him mention that which was odd. If you're going to mention it at least confirm if it is legit or not.Originally posted by Jaco_Pastorious View PostThought the comment Woodhouse made about the supposed bet he may or may not have placed on himself to win was a bit silly.
He came out with a I cannot confirm nor deny that I bet on myself type statement.
The rumour is that he placed a £5,000 bet on himself some time back to win the British title at odds of 50-1.
Brilliant for him personally though that he was able to win a title and then step away.
The Coyle-Brizuel was a ding dong scrap alright, but can see Coyle getting beaten badly if he gets put in with the better lightweights.
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I thought he all but confirmed it, And was having a laugh about it saying the drinks are on me.Originally posted by Jaco_Pastorious View PostThought the comment Woodhouse made about the supposed bet he may or may not have placed on himself to win was a bit silly.
He came out with a I cannot confirm nor deny that I bet on myself type statement.
The rumour is that he placed a £5,000 bet on himself some time back to win the British title at odds of 50-1.
Brilliant for him personally though that he was able to win a title and then step away.
The Coyle-Brizuel was a ding dong scrap alright, but can see Coyle getting beaten badly if he gets put in with the better lightweights._____________________________________
Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?
Think we have the answer..Slot!!



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