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  • Gibbo
    Like a boss
    • Jul 2010
    • 26212

    #6526
    I had Ward by a round.

    Agree with Jaco about a rematch too, I think Ward would take it, probably wider.
    The times they are a changin'.

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    • labourRed
      Paisley
      • Jun 2015
      • 13454

      #6527
      Originally posted by marcus50bucks
      Yep draw for me too but I can see why Ward was given the win due to the cleaner shots. My issue is the scorecard 114-113. I was wondering how the judges came to that conclusion and then low and behold I see that 2 of the judges gave Ward the last 6 rounds. I know scoring rounds is subjective but that is taking the biscuit. I don't care how knowledgeable people are on boxing, you're not going to convince me that from round 7 Ward won every round.
      I had the same to be fair, although i struggled to call the final round (lack of sleep) and went for a straight draw as i found too many round too tight to call. But as that's bull**** justification, so i should have probably edged Ward meaning he'd have won every round of the last six for me.

      The fight was close, so i don't think it falls into politics although a home crowd help edges a round.

      Also, on the earlier point of Kovalev out landing Ward. By 10 shots. I'd hazard a guess he earned that margin in the first three rounds alone. And without sounding patronising, boxing is scored on rounds, so you can easily out land and still lose a fight comfortably.

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      • Mr Darko
        Benitez
        • Apr 2010
        • 984

        #6528
        Disappointing yank judges can't put aside their hate for Russia and score a fight properly, even Ward's interview after the fight practically agreed he was robbed. Even though Ward would probably win the rematch I still believe he'll do his best to try and wriggle out of fighting Kovalev again.

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        • Doc_Piptorious
          • Jul 2006
          • 40260

          #6529
          Ideal world sees Ward and Kovalev go again, and the winner then going after Stevenson as he is the lineal champion as well as holding the WBC belt.


          Get those two fights in 2017 and we end up with one guy having the lineal title along with the WBA, IBF, WBC, and WBO belts.


          Have a feeling that Stevenson is on Ward's radar as the lineal title is something that always meant a lot to him at Super middleweight, he has spoken at length on it in interviews etc., and suspect that he thinks that having all the belts and, more importantly the lineal title, for this division adds up to a legacy moment.


          There is a rematch clause open to Kovalev though, so will be interesting to see if he is activating it straight away or if he will take a step aside fee. Methinks he will be taking option number one.
          I don't hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around.


          Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness

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          • Doc_Piptorious
            • Jul 2006
            • 40260

            #6530
            Originally posted by Mr Darko
            Disappointing yank judges can't put aside their hate for Russia and score a fight properly, even Ward's interview after the fight practically agreed he was robbed. Even though Ward would probably win the rematch I still believe he'll do his best to try and wriggle out of fighting Kovalev again.



            Don't think that the scoring was that far out, as it was a close fight and a fight that saw one fighter stand out in the first half and the other in the second half.


            I do disagree with the scoring as I think the scores should have been flipped in favour of Kovalev, but there were a few rounds that were very tough to call and depending on how what a judge favoured, be it ring management, aggression, punches landed or just outright bias, then those particular rounds were up in the air and up for grabs.
            I don't hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around.


            Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness

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            • spud_gun
              Paisley
              • Jul 2006
              • 26519

              #6531
              If you want to bemoan the judging from last night then start with the chief support. Hooker got an absolute gift against Perez

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              • Shaggy
                Unidentified Rascal
                • Jul 2006
                • 135533

                #6532
                Originally posted by spud_gun
                If you want to bemoan the judging from last night then start with the chief support. Hooker got an absolute gift against Perez
                That was an absolute disgrace
                Thanks very much for being

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                • marcus50bucks
                  Niko Bellic
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 7141

                  #6533
                  Lomachenko v Walters

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                  • Doc_Piptorious
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 40260

                    #6534
                    Originally posted by marcus50bucks
                    Lomachenko v Walters


                    And it is a similar clash of styles to Ward vs Kovalev. The guy who beats you by outboxing you vs the guy who beats you up and stops you.
                    I don't hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around.


                    Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness

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                    • marcus50bucks
                      Niko Bellic
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 7141

                      #6535
                      Originally posted by Jaco_Pastorious
                      And it is a similar clash of styles to Ward vs Kovalev. The guy who beats you by outboxing you vs the guy who beats you up and stops you.

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                      • spud_gun
                        Paisley
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 26519

                        #6536
                        Originally posted by marcus50bucks
                        Lomachenko v Walters
                        Could watch Lomachenko all day long.

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                        • Shaggy
                          Unidentified Rascal
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 135533

                          #6537
                          30 years ago today.

                          I remember watching this with my Dad - I'm fairly certain ITV showed it the next day, the Sunday, and I was absolutely awestruck, possibly more awestruck than I've ever been. Made a huge impression on me as a 9 year old.

                          [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AJA9qu1Fr0"]Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick (1986) full fight Hight Quality - YouTube[/ame]
                          Thanks very much for being

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                          • Daniel 7
                            Heretic
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 24088

                            #6538
                            Yeah I remember watching that when I was about the same ago too - I think it was a Sunday watch. The crazy thing about it is that he's a 20 year old absolutely destroying a WBC champion. You could see Berbick there being full of bravado trying to go toe to toe - ridiculous. I remember there being beef about which one wore the black shorts - Tyson was fined from what I remember, as the champ was supposed to get the priority.

                            Tyson is the same age there as my skinny son now!

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                            • Vermilion
                              Shooterista
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 32026

                              #6539
                              Amazing to watch Berbick's reaction when attempting to get up, the disdain his brain shows his body for not keeping him on his feet after getting half way up.

                              Awesome.

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                              • spud_gun
                                Paisley
                                • Jul 2006
                                • 26519

                                #6540
                                Tyson at his peak. 4 short years later and it was all gone.

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