Boxing

[Zapater]

On a slightly more serious note, not that I'm Karius or anything, but I'm pretty sure Bellew has a concussion. Hope he gets checked properly. A bit concerning that they let him wonder around repeating himself, rubbing and kissing people for so long. I know his 'normal' behaviour is unusual but he did seem a bit off. Hopefully it's nothing too serious.

That was great. Bellew put up a much better effort than I expected tbh, but Usyk is something else. That right jab to set up the huge left was lovely. Goodnight Tony you cunt. All that showboating he did too. LOOOOOOOOL. Wear it Bellew ya ****in gob****e.

Great jab, snapped his head back completely. Bellew was exhausted at that point, done, even a well timed shot without much on it would've buckled him. the showboating and shouting in the early rounds really appears ridiculous now.

Usyk is special though, won his last 7 fights on the road with 6 of them being in his opponents backyard. Only the Mchunu (who is a very talented fighter) was on neutral ground in the States.

[rodo]

that post fight interview should deffo have been cut short as clearly he was all over the place although made up to see him put on his arse good style

[Zapater]

He seemed much better in the post fight press conference, so probably just confused and in mild shock from the volume of punches in those last couple of rounds.

I'm a bit relieved he didn't do a Biscan, because his cock was perilously close to making an appearance the way that he went down.

[pezzzer]

That was great. Bellew put up a much better effort than I expected tbh, but Usyk is something else. That right jab to set up the huge left was lovely. Goodnight Tony you cunt. All that showboating he did too. LOOOOOOOOL. Wear it Bellew ya ****in gob****e.

Couldnt put that better mate
At least he can recover on his setee whilst watching Everton take a similar pasting today

[marcus50bucks]

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I know John Fury isn't everyone's cup of a tea but I actually like listening to his interviews. He's a straight talking guy. This is a really good honest interview imo.

I can't wait until next weekend. I just hope Fury will upset the odds again and pull it off

[Zapater]

He's definitely the best of the Fury's by some way. Regardless, I don't have much time for any of them.

I have zero and I reiterate zero interest in this fight. I hate the priority given to heavyweights, particularly when they're so limited. At least Chisora and Whyte has some needle. Just overall strange with Chisora teaming up with David Haye now. Some strange developments in the boxing landscape.

Spence Jr vs Mikey Garcia next year is going to be a cracker. I can't wait for it. Now that's a fight worth watching. I'm picking Spence, but it could go either way.

The Pacquiao - Broner one is just altogether weird. I wish Manny would retire and Broner is hardly relevant in the current scheme of things.

Jean Pascal in action later against Bivol. Could be an interesting one if Pascal can roll back the years. Over the hill but still decent enough. Adonis Stevenson is back next week too on the subject of light heavies. So some decent scraps in the next couple of weeks.

[marcus50bucks]

As talented as Garcia is, he is just too small for Spence. He'll either get stopped in the latter rounds or he'll lose convincingly on points imo. It's a shame the likes of Thurman want no part of Spence. I actually hope we see a Crawford v Spence fight in 2019.

[Doc_Piptorious]

As talented as Garcia is, he is just too small for Spence. He'll either get stopped in the latter rounds or he'll lose convincingly on points imo. It's a shame the likes of Thurman want no part of Spence. I actually hope we see a Crawford v Spence fight in 2019.

Think Crawford is easily a level above Spence tbh. Spence is a good boxer, maybe very good, but Crawford is a genuine world class fighter.

[marcus50bucks]

Crawford, definitely looks a class act. I came across this the other day.

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[spud_gun]

He's definitely the best of the Fury's by some way. Regardless, I don't have much time for any of them.

I have zero and I reiterate zero interest in this fight. I hate the priority given to heavyweights, particularly when they're so limited. At least Chisora and Whyte has some needle. Just overall strange with Chisora teaming up with David Haye now. Some strange developments in the boxing landscape.

Spence Jr vs Mikey Garcia next year is going to be a cracker. I can't wait for it. Now that's a fight worth watching. I'm picking Spence, but it could go either way.

The Pacquiao - Broner one is just altogether weird. I wish Manny would retire and Broner is hardly relevant in the current scheme of things.

Jean Pascal in action later against Bivol. Could be an interesting one if Pascal can roll back the years. Over the hill but still decent enough. Adonis Stevenson is back next week too on the subject of light heavies. So some decent scraps in the next couple of weeks.

Fury is 20st ballet dancer in the ring.

I can't wait for the fight next week and i hope it christ we're going to get another Fury masterclass and it's not a cash out fight by his camp.

The Fury who fought Wlad will dance rings round the Wilder who is an extremely limited boxer.

[Zapater]

Fury has no power. I don't find his style entertaining at all either. He boxed an excellent fight against Wlad but it was exciting as watching paint dry. Each to their own but Fury for me adds nothing to the sport. Much like the heavyweight division.

[Zapater]

Agree on Crawford btw. Right up there with Loma and the gang for the top p4p spots. The fact he can switch hit is just the icing on the cake.

[Doc_Piptorious]

Agree on Crawford btw. Right up there with Loma and the gang for the top p4p spots. The fact he can switch hit is just the icing on the cake.

He is number one on the P4P list for me. No real weaknesses and he is outstanding in sso many departments.

His switch hitting is just so smooth, just seemless at times. Would rate him the best in the world at it at present, and the list of guys that I have seen better at it in my lifetime is a very short list.


Hagler was the best switch hitter I have ever seen operating at the highest level, and in the modern era the two best I have seen are Andre Ward and Terrence Crawford.

Uysk is a pretty good switch hitter too for a big guy, but nowhere near as smooth as the three names above.


Can think of other guys that were really good silky smooth switch hitters, but they did not excel at the highest level so am discounting them from my thinking.

[Doc_Piptorious]

I have zero and I reiterate zero interest in this fight. I hate the priority given to heavyweights, particularly when they're so limited. At least Chisora and Whyte has some needle. Just overall strange with Chisora teaming up with David Haye now. Some strange developments in the boxing landscape.

Funnily enough I think that switch hitting may be key to Fury getting a result against Wilder. Not saying Fury is a master of switch hitting but he is pretty capable for a heavyweight and Wilder seems to get thrown off a bit when an opponent switch hits or feints a switch. He was caught a few times clean against Ortiz that way.

Of course that then brings in the question of Fury's power and for me he has very very average stopping power for a big man.

It is a fight that is more a curiousity than an essential fight imho. I am expecting an ugly borefest if Fury can implement his game plan (well what I expect of him anyway) of trying to smother the life out of the fight (which I suspect will happen for most of the duration of the fight).

I have often lamented the quality, or rather lack of, in the heavyweight division and this fight is very much an example of that.

We have one guy, a world champion no less, who is still a bit of an unproven commodity despite having 40 wins to his name. His best wins coming against a 38 or 39 year old Ortiz ( a decent heavyweight) and Stiverne ( a guy that would be seen a record padding fodder 20 years ago). The rest of his record is made up of names that are swaying between the lowest level needed to be regarded as bang average to just plain awful.


Fury's record is a bit better than that of Wilder, thanks to the obvious name being of Klitschko ( Klitschko being oddly gun shy that night but am crediting Fury for causing that) and his next best wins being those over Chisora. Think it is safe to say that the rest of his record is mostly made up of shameless padding a la Wilder's record.

[marcus50bucks]

Surprised you didn't mention Nas as being a very good switch hitter. He's right up there, no doubt about it imo. In fact ingles fighters had this in their locker with their unconventional style.