Boxing

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I might have a little punt on a Whyte KO if I can get a bit of value.

[Doc_Piptorious]

I might have a little punt on a Whyte KO if I can get a bit of value.

I think Whyte is a trickier opponent that Wilder tbh. He is heavier, rougher, and if motivated and in shape, should be better equipped physically to handle Fury's leaning/clinching/pushing. Unlike Wilder, Whyte can perform the basics of boxing and whilst limited he is nowhere near being the one trick pony Wilder is. Think if Whye was fed the same opponents that Wilder was (save for Fury) that Whyte would have had the same zero losses stat on his record. Ortiz is the only other name on Wilder'record that might have given Whtye problems but would expect Whyte to beat Ortiz.

Don't think he has the power to one shot Fury though, but he might be heavy handed enough to break Fury down through a number of punches having a cumulative effect.


Now I fancy Fury to win this and if he cannot stop Whyte or force a stoppage I think that would be a poor result for him tbh. Fury should be able to beat Whyte more comfortably than Joshua did.

My logic behind that statement is very simple, Fury understands when to clinch, when to spoil and when to ****house, and is good at all three whereas Joshua against Whyte did not seem to be able to clinch/lean/spoil when that was needed and as such Whyte gave Joshua more trouble in that fight than he should have imo.

[Zapater]

I think Whyte is a trickier opponent that Wilder tbh. He is heavier, rougher, and if motivated and in shape, should be better equipped physically to handle Fury's leaning/clinching/pushing. Unlike Wilder, Whyte can perform the basics of boxing and whilst limited he is nowhere near being the one trick pony Wilder is. Think if Whye was fed the same opponents that Wilder was (save for Fury) that Whyte would have had the same zero losses stat on his record. Ortiz is the only other name on Wilder'record that might have given Whtye problems but would expect Whyte to beat Ortiz.

Don't think he has the power to one shot Fury though, but he might be heavy handed enough to break Fury down through a number of punches having a cumulative effect.


Now I fancy Fury to win this and if he cannot stop Whyte or force a stoppage I think that would be a poor result for him tbh. Fury should be able to beat Whyte more comfortably than Joshua did.

My logic behind that statement is very simple, Fury understands when to clinch, when to spoil and when to ****house, and is good at all three whereas Joshua against Whyte did not seem to be able to clinch/lean/spoil when that was needed and as such Whyte gave Joshua more trouble in that fight than he should have imo.

I think Whyte has improved a bit since the Joshua fight too. It depends how the fight goes, Whyte is also quite long and clumsy (like Fury). I would be surprised if Fury managed to stop him, the only hope of that would be Whyte to gas himself (as he does) and Fury throwing a flurry without response. I know that Povetkin KO'd him but I don't think that Fury has that same one shot power, that was timed to perfection too - so a couple of variables were involved.

I'm still not sure if I'll be bothered to tune in.

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6-1 Whyte by KO,TKO or DQ.
13-1 the above in rounds 7-12
2-1 Fury points
Think I'll have £50 on each

[Doc_Piptorious]

I think Whyte has improved a bit since the Joshua fight too. It depends how the fight goes, Whyte is also quite long and clumsy (like Fury). I would be surprised if Fury managed to stop him, the only hope of that would be Whyte to gas himself (as he does) and Fury throwing a flurry without response. I know that Povetkin KO'd him but I don't think that Fury has that same one shot power, that was timed to perfection too - so a couple of variables were involved.

I'm still not sure if I'll be bothered to tune in.

Totally agree that Fury does not have one shot power, and would say Fury has a lot less power than many heavyweights tbh, especially for his weight and general size.

But I think Fury could wear him out with spoiling, leaning, ****housing etc along with a steady build up of shots and that could/should lead to Whyte tiring and/or making a mistake and being stopped that way.

Whyte being somewhat clumsy is in Fury's favour as he generally does ok against those that are not smooth movers.


Would also agree that Whyte is better than he was when he faced Joshua, but he does blow hot and cold and usually does better when the fight stays straight in front of him and comes at him so that he can go meet it the same way.

His conditioning for the fight is key too. He cannot come in carrying too much timber and being in that stay puff marshmallow man shape he gets into when he tries to add weight for a fight.

He needs to be in the sort of shape that allows him to work Fury as Fury is a guy that does not like a pace being set for him

[Doc_Piptorious]

6-1 Whyte by KO,TKO or DQ.
13-1 the above in rounds 7-12
2-1 Fury points
Think I'll have £50 on each

2/1 for Fury to win on points seems generous.


Who are those odds with and what are the odds on Fury winning by KO/TKO/DQ there?

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https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/t...n-whyte/winner

Bet365 2-1 Fury points and BetVictor going 1-2 fight to finish by stoppage 7-4 points

Fury stoppage 5/6 best price

[Doc_Piptorious]

Mad that they have Fury having shorter odds for winning by KO than on points.




Have to say that 28/1 on Whyte getting the nod by decision or TD is almost tempting for a small bet

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Who's Whytes best win? Parker?

You're hatred for Fury is clouding your judgement here.

Whyte is a gatekeeper, nothing more. Fury should UD him with relative ease

[Doc_Piptorious]

Who's Whytes best win? Parker?

You're hatred for Fury is clouding your judgement here.

Whyte is a gatekeeper, nothing more. Fury should UD him with relative ease

Clouding my judgement? Come on fella, read what is being said in posts instead of straw manning me.


I already said I fancy Fury to win it and that anything less than a stoppage win of some kind for Fury would be be a poor result for Fury. Think that made it pretty clear of their level in comparison to the other.


Anything else is just chat about what underdog chances Whyte may have.

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Clouding my judgement? Come on fella, read what is being said in posts instead of straw manning me.


I already said I fancy Fury to win it and that anything less than a stoppage win of some kind for Fury would be be a poor result for Fury. Think that made it pretty clear of their level in comparison to the other.


Anything else is just chat about what underdog chances Whyte may have.

No strawmanning.


Apologies, i missed the part where you said you fancied Fury to win it

[Doc_Piptorious]

No strawmanning.


Apologies, i missed the part where you said you fancied Fury to win it

Too late. It's a bitter blood fued between us now.

Just not on Tuesdays mind as I like a lazy Tuesday.

Expect lots of virtual stink eye and the occasional threat of what my man Zap would do to you in the ring.

[Pablo]

Too late. It's a bitter blood fued between us now.

Just not on Tuesdays mind as I like a lazy Tuesday.

Expect lots of virtual stink eye and the occasional threat of what my man Zap would do to you in the ring.

Settle it in the ring lads?

Fury by TKO for me. He'll wear him down and finish it in the later rounds.

[Doc_Piptorious]

Settle it in the ring lads?

Fury by TKO for me. He'll wear him down and finish it in the later rounds.

If he can cheat his way past Zap to earn a title shot, I would be happy to give him a jolly good thrashing.

I'll even bring three judges with me whose scoring would make Canelo blush.

[spud_gun]

Too late. It's a bitter blood fued between us now.

Just not on Tuesdays mind as I like a lazy Tuesday.

Expect lots of virtual stink eye and the occasional threat of what my man Zap would do to you in the ring.

Oh it's on