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    good stuff from Murray.

    Andy Murray says Federer 'one of greatest'

    A heartbroken Andy Murray said there was no shame in losing to Roger Federer in the Wimbledon final.
    Murray, the first British men's singles finalist since 1938, lost 4-6 7-5 6-3 6-4 as Federer won his seventh title at Wimbledon and 17th Grand Slam crown.
    "It's hard, it's tough to take, but you need to show strength of character to come back from it," said Murray.
    "We're talking about one of the greatest athletes of all time. You've got to put it in context a little bit."
    Murray went into his fourth Grand Slam final under a huge weight of public expectation as British tennis fans relished the prospect of a first homegrown champion since Fred Perry in 1936.
    Even though the 25-year-old was considered the underdog, many observers rated his chances given the 30-year-old Federer's slide down the rankings and lack of Grand Slam title since the 2010 Australian Open.
    World number four Murray broke the Swiss in the very first game and held on to take the first set, but from then on Federer eased his way to victory to equal Pete Sampras's The win also took him back to the top of the rankings above Novak Djokovic and Rafael Nadal.
    "Was it my best chance? I don't know," said Murray. "I lost to a guy that's now won this tournament seven times and is number one in the world.
    "He's still playing amazing tennis. A lot of people have been asking me, 'Has he started slipping? Is he not playing as well?' If you look at the matches he lost in the last couple years, they were very close matches that he definitely could have won.
    "He could be sitting on 20 Grand Slams but for one point or a couple inches here or there. He's still playing great tennis. I don't think you get to number one unless you deserve it."
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    In his other Grand Slam final appearances, Murray lost to Djokovic in Australia in 2011 and to Federer in Melbourne in 2010 and at the US Open in 2008.
    "I'd say that's the best I've played in a Grand Slam final," he said. "I created chances, I went up a set. It was a long match. Even the last two sets, I still had chances.
    "It wasn't like I gave away bad games or stupid games. I played a good match. I made pretty good decisions for the most part, so I'm happy with that. "I felt more comfortable this morning and before the match than I had done maybe in the previous slams."
    Murray gave an emotional speech on court after the match, stepping away from the microphone at one point to collect himself.
    "I'm getting closer," he said on BBC TV, before adding, "I'm going to try this and it's not going to be easy."

    John Lloyd
    Former British number one and BBC Sport expert
    "Murray wasn't passive today. He gave 100%, his attitude was good from the start he didn't get negative. He was taking chances and taking the ball on and, to me, it was a very good performance. There's still plenty more Grand Slams left yet. What Murray has had to go through these last two weeks, to go out there and win the first set... the momentum was going his way but after that Roger just stepped up. As we've seen over the years, when it counts Federer just goes up to a level no-one can live with. When Federer's on he's just too good."
    He went on to congratulate Federer and thank his family, support team and the fans, and admitted later that he had apologised to the Swiss.
    "I just said to him, 'Sorry'," said Murray. "I didn't obviously want that to happen. You feel like you're kind of attention seeking or something. It was not like that at all, but I knew it was going to be hard.
    "I've seen Roger do the same thing a couple times before, so he kind of knows what it's like. He just laughed. He said, 'This is meant to be the easy part, doing the speeches after the match'. But sometimes it feels quite hard compared with playing a tennis match."
    Murray also reinforced his belief that the huge public support is far more of a help than a hindrance at Wimbledon.
    "It's been amazing," he said. "They're certainly not the ones that make it hard to play. They make it much, much easier, you know. When you have a crowd like that behind you, it's a lot easier to play.
    "Thanks for the dedication. Sorry I couldn't do it for them."

    Open-era record for Wimbledon titles.
    Men's Wimbledon titles

    Seven: Pete Sampras (US), William Renshaw (GB), Roger Federer (Swi)
    Five: Bjorn Borg (Swe), Lawrence Doherty (GB)
    Four: Reginald Doherty (GB), Anthony Wilding (NZ), Rod Laver (Aus)
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      Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
      Open-era record for Wimbledon titles.
      Men's Wimbledon titles

      Seven: Pete Sampras (US), William Renshaw (GB), Roger Federer (Swi)
      Five: Bjorn Borg (Swe), Lawrence Doherty (GB)
      Four: Reginald Doherty (GB), Anthony Wilding (NZ), Rod Laver (Aus)
      That's wrong.
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      Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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        Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
        That's wrong.
        It's a cut and paste, but some of those are pre Open Era.
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          I realised whose error it was.

          Still, it shows a Briton winning the men's singles at Wimbledon wouldn't quite be the Earth-shattering achievement the BBC spent 48 hours suggesting it would have been.
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          Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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            Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
            I realised whose error it was.

            Still, it shows a Briton winning the men's singles at Wimbledon wouldn't quite be the Earth-shattering achievement the BBC spent 48 hours suggesting it would have been.
            The BBC are the ring leaders in heaping media pressure onto Murray and before him Henmans shoulders year after year.
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              Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
              The BBC are the ring leaders in heaping media pressure onto Murray and before him Henmans shoulders year after year.
              He needs to appoint Roy as manager. That'll keep expectations realistic.
              "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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                Roy is a realist. Tells it how it is. It was Andy's fawult.

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                  "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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                    haven't read the last few pages so not sure what it's like on here, but i was shocked with the amount of 'hatred' towards murray - people on facebook/twitter really stick the knife in and mocking him calling him all sorts.

                    Seem's a bit harsh to me

                    Anyway - i am not a big fan of tennis but enjoyed the final. It's harsh on Murray, I personally just can't see anyway that he will win a major if the other three are around, they are all just too good for him - he needs one of them to not be playing due to injury and then the other two to draw each other and **** hell out of each other so who ever goes through is half dead
                    i own everton fans on the internet....that's what i do

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                      Great picture.

                      Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                        Has he got problems with his ankles? Seemed to be quite heavily strapped.

                        He has massive feet, no wonder Kim Sears () looks content.
                        "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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                          Originally posted by PTP View Post
                          haven't read the last few pages so not sure what it's like on here, but i was shocked with the amount of 'hatred' towards murray - people on facebook/twitter really stick the knife in and mocking him calling him all sorts.

                          Seem's a bit harsh to me

                          Anyway - i am not a big fan of tennis but enjoyed the final. It's harsh on Murray, I personally just can't see anyway that he will win a major if the other three are around, they are all just too good for him - he needs one of them to not be playing due to injury and then the other two to draw each other and **** hell out of each other so who ever goes through is half dead
                          I don't think it's harsh as such, it's just completely childish, ridiculous and baseless. I've seen the same on my FB timeline - it seems to boil down to the 'anti-English' bull**** and the dour, "miserable" stuff. In fact some of the people slagging him off softened a little bit having seen his emotional reaction at the end - if they paid any sort of attention to Murray/tennis for more than 2 weeks every year then they'd know Murray usually reacts like that after a Grand Slam final defeat.

                          But they don't - they know little about Murray and know little about tennis.
                          Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                            Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
                            I don't think it's harsh as such, it's just completely childish, ridiculous and baseless. I've seen the same on my FB timeline - it seems to boil down to the 'anti-English' bull**** and the dour, "miserable" stuff. In fact some of the people slagging him off softened a little bit having seen his emotional reaction at the end - if they paid any sort of attention to Murray/tennis for more than 2 weeks every year then they'd know Murray usually reacts like that after a Grand Slam final defeat.

                            But they don't - they know little about Murray and know little about tennis.
                            Damning with faint praise there.

                            I agree that the anti-Murray stuff is tedious and unfair.

                            But then all the hype around him from the likes of the BBC is also tedious, 'though obviously that's not his fault.

                            To be honest I'm just glad it's all over for another year. Unless he wins the US Open. zzzzzz
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                            Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                              Originally posted by Tee View Post
                              Has he got problems with his ankles? Seemed to be quite heavily strapped.

                              He has massive feet, no wonder Kim Sears () looks content.
                              I think he wears the strapping to stop further damage to his ankles but that is relatively common in Mens Tennis - he knackered his ankle a year or 2 ago. It is to assist injury prevention though, rather than treatment - Roddick wears them too.

                              Not that he ever mentions it but Murray was born with a bipartite patella, where the kneecap remains as two separate bones instead of fusing together in early childhood. He was diagnosed at the age of 16 and had to stop playing tennis for six months. Murray is seen frequently to hold his knee due to the pain caused by the condition and has pulled out of events because of it, but manages it through a number of different approaches.

                              I hope he wins a major mainly as he deserves to show those who refuse to acknowledge his achievements in the game quite how good he is.
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                                Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
                                I don't think it's harsh as such, it's just completely childish, ridiculous and baseless. I've seen the same on my FB timeline - it seems to boil down to the 'anti-English' bull**** and the dour, "miserable" stuff. In fact some of the people slagging him off softened a little bit having seen his emotional reaction at the end - if they paid any sort of attention to Murray/tennis for more than 2 weeks every year then they'd know Murray usually reacts like that after a Grand Slam final defeat.

                                But they don't - they know little about Murray and know little about tennis.
                                yeah that's fair enough - it's childish - 99% of the people i have seen calling him all sorts have zero interest in tennis, but pipe up during wimbledon to slag him off.

                                that's part of what puts me off tennis - i hate people jumping on the bandwagon, people that all of a sudden become 'massive' tennis fans and tell me how they used to be amazing and have lessons when they were a kid (despite the fact i have known them for 20 years and they have never once mentioned any interest in tennis before) - i hate the 'wimbledon crowd/scene' - this cheesy, 'cmon tim', lets eat strawberries and drink pimms and sit on a hill all day and do the mexican wave bunch of cunts that appear out of the woodwork each year.

                                the fact i am **** at tennis doesn't help either
                                i own everton fans on the internet....that's what i do

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