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    It does seem very suspect, but as Neil says it proves nothing.

    That said nothing would be a surprise now in terms of doping in sports (not just cycling). It's hard to trust any elite athlete in any sport these days

    This all brings me back to my idea of an Official Drugged Up Olympics 100m in 4 seconds? Yes please!

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      Originally posted by Nigey View Post
      But surely Wiggins is intelligent enough to know that it's bad PR? Then he also knows that Kimmage is not going to let this go away, so why not agree to it?

      I agree that we're merely speculating, so let's see if Wiggins replies to Kimmage's tweets. It might be circumstantial as you say, but terribly bad PR by Wiggins.
      That's why I said earlier it was bad PR.

      But you're in danger of using bad PR possibly connected with a falling out about a piece of PR that didn't happen as evidence of shady goings-on.

      It's a bit tenuous.
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      Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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        Originally posted by Nigey View Post
        But surely Wiggins is intelligent enough to know that it's bad PR? Then he also knows that Kimmage is not going to let this go away, so why not agree to it?

        I agree that we're merely speculating, so let's see if Wiggins replies to Kimmage's tweets. It might be circumstantial as you say, but terribly bad PR by Wiggins.
        Wiggins deleted his Twitter some time ago so won't be doing on there. He might do via any other platform of course.

        And obviously it proves nothing at all, but it's fascinating nonetheless.
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          Originally posted by Pablo1981 View Post
          It does seem very suspect, but as Neil says it proves nothing.

          That said nothing would be a surprise now in terms of doping in sports (not just cycling). It's hard to trust any elite athlete in any sport these days

          This all brings me back to my idea of an Official Drugged Up Olympics 100m in 4 seconds? Yes please!
          It'd be better if it wasn't performance enhancing drugs...
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            Perhaps Wiggins really dislikes Kimmage and didn't want that distraction to de-rail his Tour plans.
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              Maybe he's a mutant? Or a reverse-vampire?
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                Originally posted by Captain Stu View Post
                It'd be better if it wasn't performance enhancing drugs...
                Watching Usain Bolt sprawled out on the start line of the 100m stoned off his face scoffing a kebab would be enthralling too admittedly.

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                  Originally posted by Pablo1981 View Post
                  Watching Usain Bolt sprawled out on the start line of the 100m stoned off his face scoffing a kebab would be enthralling too admittedly.
                  Swimmers on acid, freaking out because they think there's sharks in the pool.
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                    Why stop there? Let's just put actual sharks in the pool

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                      I'd be shocked if Wiggins has ever doped. Absolutely shocked.

                      Intriguing string on tweets from Kimmage though.

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                        Why such shock when so many in his sport have before him? What makes him so innocent? No ulterior motive to this question by the way, I'm just wondering.

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                          It wouldn't be shocking in the sense of 'another TdF winner was on drugs' sense. But just from following his career over quite a few years it'd go against everything I percieve him to be personally.

                          Just things like in 2007 when he was clearly disgusted with Moreni when he failed a drug test when he was in the same team.

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                            I don't know enough about his career progression prior to this amazing year he had in 2012? Was he always on the cusp of greatness or did he just suddenly excel last year? If so then I'd say there's cause for concern. There's been numerous cases of athletes not quite having it in them to win at the top level, getting frustrated, resorting to cheating (knowing the ones beating them are already doing it), and then suddenly conquering all.

                            It's horribly cynical of me, but as soon as someone starts to excel themselves in sport these days I can't help but instantly doubt them

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                              He used to be a pretty successful track cyclist before doing road racing. He has won a few Olympic golds. So its not a sudden change in fortune. He also finished 3rd in the 2009 Tour de France.
                              *Except Michael, who died.

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                                He has won more Olympic Medals that Sir Chris Hoy!

                                In Road Racing he was winning stages as early as 2001 and 2009 was he first real big season.
                                Should've won the Tour in 2011 but for an injury forcing him out!

                                I get people who question him and any other cyclist who gains success though. The sports reputation is tainted at best and will take a lot of years before it recovers.

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