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    What a total cunt vettel is for parking it where he did. You can tell by the way the team were all comforting him afterwards that he's like a spoilt child when things go wrong. They had to massage his ego. First retirement in ages. Brilliant. He could of pulled off the track way before where he eventually did. Instead the safety car gave his team mate a chance of winning he clearly didnt deserve. Some good close racing.
    Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar Wilde

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      Vettle is a massive beaut who thinks he's Schumacher.

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        They should just go back to making the best performance tyres they can rather than trying to construct tyres that degrade to a certain set of data
        We managed to rectify it, though, because it now says, "Cook" where it once said "Cock", and "Pass" where it once said "Piss", so it’s slightly less rude.

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          Were the deficiencies in the tyres exacerbated by the hot weather/surface?
          Are we winning?

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            They reckon it was kerb related, maybe pressure not being high enough. Its bollocks.

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              Can't have helped being a bit warmer and the teams not having any data on that.

              Germany next week so no chance of Pirelli sorting it before then.

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                Pirelli need to be sacked from being the tyre manufacturer it's not only ruining the racing it's so dangerous it's not funny.

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                  Good piece by Gary Anderson on the kerbs at the end of the BBC coverage.Certainly played a part.

                  Like it or not we haven't seen this from the tyre's until now so clearly something else was playing a part today.They've been tasked with making a tyre to a certain spec and that's exactly what they've done.Todays issues apart,like Ross Brawn said,Pirelli aren't allowed to make more durable tyres so its hardly their fault.

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                    Thing is we don't know as of yet if the tyres supplied were up to the required spec today, seeing the number of random punctures happening is really quite worrying.

                    Perhaps it's not only Pirelli's fault but also the rule makers of F1 but being the company supplying the equipment they'll be at the front of the queue for any blame handed out.

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                      F1 2013

                      I can't believe that Silverstones curbs are sharper than any other track.

                      Any chance the drivers refuse to drive over safety fears next weekend?

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                        It's possible I think, the drivers certainly seem pretty pissed off with it now as it's bloody dangerous.

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                          Originally posted by Chazza View Post
                          I can't believe that Silverstones curbs are sharper than any other track.

                          Any chance the drivers refuse to drive over safety fears next weekend?
                          They've done it before

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                            Originally posted by rcasemore View Post
                            Thing is we don't know as of yet if the tyres supplied were up to the required spec today, seeing the number of random punctures happening is really quite worrying.

                            Perhaps it's not only Pirelli's fault but also the rule makers of F1 but being the company supplying the equipment they'll be at the front of the queue for any blame handed out.
                            We have to separate the issues though. Today is a whole separate issue to what's being going on all season. The tyre deg issues so far this season is what I'm talking about, people blame Pirelli for ruining the racing but it's not their fault, they've been told to do it by the FIA.

                            Today was a whole new thing and obviously it's not acceptable. Ironically they brought a new construction of tyre to this race to try and prevent the delamination we saw a couple of times earlier in the season and ended up with something far worse.

                            Edit:-not a new construction but a new way of bonding the tyre parts together. Couldn't bring the new construction of tyres because the teams couldn't agree on it
                            Last edited by G; 30-06-13, 04:31 PM.

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                              Whatever today's issues are one things for sure that the tyres have been a disgrace this season

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                                I think Hamilton's comments summed the Pirelli situation up. "We did the test to try to stop things like that happening, but they didn't do anything with it"

                                Delamination and punctures have happened in the past sure, but not to the same extent as this year.

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