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Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
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As Holding said we wasted a lot of petrol there. Needless, but we got there in the end.Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’Comment
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Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
Did it the long way round, nearly cost it with overly negative tactics. But the result is all that matters in the end.
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I tend to listen to TMS more than watch Sky but when I have heard Holding in the last few days I've just found him irritating. His moaning about the predictive nature of DRS was as tedious and illogical as Hussain's demolition of his argument was total and enjoyable.Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
He was a great bowler, a joy to watch, but as a commentator he seems to have turned into a grumpy old man, much like Botham. Although at least his voice isn't annoying like Botham's.
As for using up a lot of petrol, he's exaggerating the negatives and ignoring the positive that both bowlers and batsman got more practice in a match situation. Thanks to New Zealand's hopelessness the England bowlers have hardly been overworked. I don't think they'll take much time to recover from a game that's lasted three and a half days..
Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
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Originally posted by Pedenj View Post
Did it the long way round, nearly cost it with overly negative tactics. But the result is all that matters in the end.
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I agree re Holding but only quoted him as he said it literally as I was posting. FWIW Gower, Atherton, Hussain, Smith - all of them in fact - agree England took an unnecessarily long route to victory.Originally posted by Neil Young View PostI tend to listen to TMS more than watch Sky but when I have heard Holding in the last few days I've just found him irritating. His moaning about the predictive nature of DRS was as tedious and illogical as Hussain's demolition of his argument was total and enjoyable.
He was a great bowler, a joy to watch, but as a commentator he seems to have turned into a grumpy old man, much like Botham. Although at least his voice isn't annoying like Botham's.
As for using up a lot of petrol, he's exaggerating the negatives and ignoring the positive that both bowlers and batsman got more practice in a match situation. Thanks to New Zealand's hopelessness the England bowlers have hardly been overworked. I don't think they'll take much time to recover from a game that's lasted three and a half days.Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’Comment
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Yep, that's the consensus. I'm sure they could have declared a little earlier without any problem and Cook was a bit overcautious in his field setting. So overall they could have been more aggressive here and there. I just think the criticism has been OTT, and the fact they've won has weakened the case against Cook and Flower.
I'm glad we agree about Holding, I thought I might be the only one. His voice is great and I really want to like him but he's such a dull f*cker.
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Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
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Originally posted by Neil Young View PostYep, that's the consensus. I'm sure they could have declared a little earlier without any problem and Cook was a bit overcautious in his field setting. So overall they could have been more aggressive here and there. I just think the criticism has been OTT, and the fact they've won has weakened the case against Cook and Flower.
I'm glad we agree about Holding, I thought I might be the only one. His voice is great and I really want to like him but he's such a dull f*cker.
I sort of forgive his miserable old bloke schtick cos he was such an awesome bowler and his voice is so nice and therapeutic
Andy Flower being interviewed by Athers there. He is one intense dude.
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Flower: "Trott could have been more urgent, without a doubt"
Interesting.
Trott was *very* spiky when asked about that last night.Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’Comment
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Just saw the footage of Flower talking to the groundsman this morning about taking the covers off quicker. ****ing hell
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Talk of Bell opening the innings in the Ashes Expect that speculation to mount if he does well in the Champions Trophy.... how do you feel about that, Shaggy?
I do see how that could work tbh. His technique is solid, whilst his style would give a fluidity to the start of the innings that you don't get with a top 3 of Cook, Compo and Trott. It's a bold and attacking move, but if he does well in the one day format and goes into the ashes in good form then it's definitely worth considering. Plus, KP at 4 and Root at 5 looks like a potential match winning middle order. In fact, I'm starting to talk myself round to the idea
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Absolutely no way. No way. He's not close to being obdurate enough. Too lily-livered to open for the Test team.
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On the subject of winning the test quicker. We did do it in 3.5 days, if we had made them follow on it would have essentially been a 2.5 day test. That would have been no good to anyone. Players like Compton, Root and Bairstow needed another knock. Compton especially, he looks shot to pieces at the moment. Trying way to hard not to get out.*Except Michael, who died.Comment
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If KP is fit I'd move Root up.
Cook
Root
Trott
Pietersen
Bell
Bairstow
Prior
Broad
Swann
Finn
Anderson
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England's Nick Compton needs to get Somerset runs - Andy Flower
England opening batsman Nick Compton needs to score runs for Somerset to ensure selection for the Ashes, says national team director Andy Flower.
Compton scored only eight runs in England's second Test win over New Zealand to extend his poor run to 54 runs in six innings.
"He's got to go away and get back into form, score some heavy runs for Somerset," Flower told BBC Sport.
The first Test against Australia at Trent Bridge begins on 10 July.
Before then, Compton, who made back-to-back Test centuries on the tour of New Zealand in March, could play two first-class matches for Somerset against Derbyshire and the touring Australians.
If selected, the 29-year-old may also line up for England against Essex in an Ashes warm-up, although that game at Chelmsford begins the day after the Somerset-Australia fixture is scheduled to end.
Compton scored 39 runs in four innings during the two-Test series against New Zealand, an average of 9.75.
"He has a few days off, then plays in a couple of one-day games before playing first-class cricket," added Flower.
"Hopefully the one-day game will be good for him. He can go out, enjoy batting and enjoy hitting the ball.
"That can be the catalyst for him going into that first-class game to score big runs for Somerset."
England's 247-run victory over the Black Caps at Headingley sealed a 2-0 series triumph following a 170-run win at Lord's.
Off-spinner Graeme Swann, in his second Test back after elbow surgery, was named man of the match for his figures of 10-132, while 22-year-old Joe Root scored a maiden Test century on his home ground.
In addition, Root's Yorkshire team-mate Jonny Bairstow made 64 in England's first innings, while captain Alastair Cook made his 25th Test ton in the second.
Yet Cook's side faced criticism in some quarters for not enforcing the follow-on after securing a first-innings lead of 180, then scoring at a slow rate on the third afternoon.
England finally declared after lunch on day four - setting New Zealand an unlikely 468 to win - and had to dodge the Leeds rain before wrapping up victory on the fifth afternoon.
"Test cricket is a hard game and taking 20 wickets is difficult," said Zimbabwean Flower.
"We had the right to choose and we chose to bat again and get well ahead of them. We thought we would have enough time on a wearing pitch to take the last 10 wickets and that's what it proved.
"It was great to see Jonny Bairstow and Joe Root bat so brilliantly in the first innings. Joe Root was outstanding and it was great to see the passion and enthusiasm that the Yorkshire crowd gave in appreciation of his hundred.
"Alastair Cook scored another hundred, Swann is back in form and he has got his body into reasonable order. Those are all things I would prefer to focus on rather than the negatives."
When asked by BBC cricket correspondent Jonathan Agnew if England had been at "100%" during their victory, Flower responded: "I'm sure when you reflect on your broadcasting today you wouldn't have been at 100%; none of us operate at 100%.
"I thought it was very good performance by our side - we won by over 200 runs."Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’Comment
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