The Running/Keeping Fit Thread

[Maxiedge]

Probably driven down the gastric bypass.

The key to losing weight is ****ting out more than you eat

[Chazza]

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Shaggy: did you ever keep up your diet?

I too am now delving more and more into fat ******* territory since the baby arrived on the scene. I'm finding it hard to find the time to go for runs any more, and I've been eating too much crap of late too.

Worse still it's screwed up my digestive system, I'm now getting persistent stomach pains

I've narrowed down the cause to bread I think, so I think I'm going to have to plan some kind of diet that involves reducing the amount of bread I eat.

Anyone know any decent diets, other than Atkins style ones, that cut down on the amount of bread you eat?

I cut out bread for a few weeks having porridge in the mornings and then eating plenty of eggs, chicken, turkey and salad for lunch and dinner. Dropped from 15 stone to 14 1/2 in about 2 weeks.

Went back to eating bread over a weekend and it ****ed my insides good and proper.

[baitman]

is bread just bread

is it less bad if its brown. probably. is it better if its wholemeal. probably.
is it better if its the whole loaf, rather than sliced stuff in a plastic bag?
is there ever a point at which bread becomes "good"?
how much is too much per day?

[Assassin]

There's a Spurs fan in my office who's been a massive fat ******* for as long as I've known him , but over the last month or so he's lost an absolute ****load of weight. It's ridiculous how fast it's dropped off him. I'm going to ask him how he's done it, but my current working theory is a stomach staple

He has to be on a low carb diet

[kris90210]

is bread just bread

is it less bad if its brown. probably. is it better if its wholemeal. probably.
is it better if its the whole loaf, rather than sliced stuff in a plastic bag?
is there ever a point at which bread becomes "good"?
how much is too much per day?

Bergen bread is probably as healthy as you're going to get with bread

[Gingawaria]

Been keeping to the diet but not getting as much exercise as I'd like. Still, weighed myself the other day and I'd lost 3lbs since the last time I'd weighed myself so it's going in the right direction.

[wiw]

I kept to mine for 2 months, then slipped for a month or so. But Im back on target now. My brother in law is a personal trainer which helps, so he has been advising me. Ive also got myself a bike, and have taken that out a few nights recently, which has been really enjoyable on a sunny evening.

He has also go me onto Kettle Bells, which he assures me are good for fat burning and increasing core strength.

So Im pleased with my progress, even if it is much slower than when I started. This time next year though I should be in much better shape.

Kettle Bells are awesome. I downloaded a workout dvd that has different routines for abs, fast fat burn, chest/back, shoulders/arms, legs etc if you want? Could put it on a disc or something. Really helps.

I've gone back into fat ******* mode atm, drank almost every day during my holiday (nearly 3 weeks ). Had a 3 mile run last night and getting back on the diet so should start to see results again

[Alex]

10 Reasons Why White Bread Is Bad For You

Why are refined grains damaging to our health? This might be a useful question to have whirling around in your mind while walking past a bakery.

1) Harmful Microforms

First of all, all stored grains start to ferment within 90 days and are full of harmful mycotoxins and microforms.

2) Acidic

Secondly, grains are very acidic. The most acidic grain is wheat, followed by rye, oats and barley in that order. When grains like whet are refined they become even more acidic. When there’s an acid/alkaline imbalance in our body, especially in the blood it creates an environment where bacteria, yeast, fungus, and mould thrive. This means that when we are over acidic, we rot inside, which corrodes body tissue and interrupts cellular activities and functions in the body causing damage to the emotional and psychological health. Furthermore, pathogenic microorganisms produce waste or mycotoxins thus polluting our bodies and making them acidic even further.

3) Mucus

Another problem with refined grains is mucus. Mucus is a natural defense against acid as a way to bind them up and get them out of the body. If it wasn’t for mucus, the acid would burn the whole in our cells, tissues and organs. However, eating acidic foods lead to mucus build up causing poor digestion, nasal congestion, lung congestion (as in asthma) and continual throat cleaning. All the grains listed above, have gluten in them, which is very mucus forming. It coats the lining of the large intestine, glues up kidneys and other organs. The clue is in the name. Glue ten or glue to the power of ten. When our internal organs such as intestines are glued up nutrients can’t come in and toxins can’t get out, the bowel flora is upset and the body loses its natural ability to cleanse and heal itself.

4) Difficult to Digest

Apart from being mucus forming, gluten is also very difficult to digest. Some sources say that wheat is so challenging for our bodies that it takes four weeks to digest one wheat meal such as pasta.

5) Allergic Reactions

When gluten particles pass from the gut into the blood antibodies, which stimulate the release of histamine are formed. When the level of histamine is high enough, it can cause allergic reactions. This will be accompanied with inflammation in the gut. In severe cases, it can wear away the absorptive surface of the gut, which can cause diarrhoea and mal-absorption.

6)Nutritionally Deficient

What about nutritious quality of refined grains? During the refining process of wheat the germ and the bran is removed so that all that is left is flower. This means that the most nutritious part of the grain including fiber, vitamins and minerals is lost. Before flower is sold it is fortified with the cheapest form of minerals and vitamins that are poorly absorbed by the body. Only a small fraction of what is lost is replaced.

7) Toxic

Another reason why refined grains are damaging to our health is that they are loaded with toxic additives such as carbon dioxide and bromine.

8 ) Bleached

Furthermore, it has to be bleached to retain its whiteness that is lost during the milling process.

9) Flavorings

As wheat is so bland on its own, it has lots of flavorings added to it. It also has has sugar added to enable the baker’s yeast to prove the dough and make it rise. Salt is also added to enhance the flavor and to prevent the loaf from rising too much.

10) Hyperglycemia

Finally, refined grains are no longer a complex carbohydrate. This means it is no longer converted into glucose slowly. In other words it is no longer a slow release source of energy. It needs little digestions, is absorbed rapidly and glucose floods the body and the cells and this state of hyperglycaemia can lead to diabetes. If glucose is not use up as energy straight away, the body will store is as fat.

All of these factors make refined grains very challenging for the body. Its no wonder that when abused, allergies and intolerances are developed to wheat and gluten as the immune system is compromised. It has no dietary benefit whatsoever and is therefore akin to eating cardboard. These ten reasons explain why white flower is the number one enemy in nutrition.

How about this lovely picture of gooey, acidic, toxic, mucus forming fat attack? Mouth watering smell of freshly baked bread? Maybe not.

http://oksanashealthkinesiology.co.uk/nutrition/10-reasons-why-white-bread-is-bad-for-you/

Obviously this article does not post sources, so take it for what that's worth. But if even one or two are correct, bread sounds like something to avoid. At least pre-packed white bread anyway.

[Alex]

Kettle Bells are awesome. I downloaded a workout dvd that has different routines for abs, fast fat burn, chest/back, shoulders/arms, legs etc if you want? Could put it on a disc or something. Really helps.

I've gone back into fat ******* mode atm, drank almost every day during my holiday (nearly 3 weeks ). Had a 3 mile run last night and getting back on the diet so should start to see results again

Thats cool. Have you got Dropbox? I could pick it up out of that if you want? Or even tell me what its called and Ill see if I can find it myself.

[Pablo]

Cheers, after just a few days without bread I'm already starting to feel a bit better, stomach pains have reduced without a doubt.

I think when I really have the urge to have some bread I will try to use pita or tortilla instead.

[Trippendicular]

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Shaggy: did you ever keep up your diet?

I too am now delving more and more into fat ******* territory since the baby arrived on the scene. I'm finding it hard to find the time to go for runs any more, and I've been eating too much crap of late too.

Worse still it's screwed up my digestive system, I'm now getting persistent stomach pains

I've narrowed down the cause to bread I think, so I think I'm going to have to plan some kind of diet that involves reducing the amount of bread I eat.

Anyone know any decent diets, other than Atkins style ones, that cut down on the amount of bread you eat?

You could try the Slow Carb diet, which cuts out all grains (including bread, rice, pasta, etc.) as well as dairy, fruit and sugar. So it's effectively just organic meat, eggs, vegetables and legumes.

[dom9]

I couldn't live without bread.

[wiw]

Thats cool. Have you got Dropbox? I could pick it up out of that if you want? Or even tell me what its called and Ill see if I can find it myself.

I haven't but everyone seems to be using it so i'll investigate later Can't remember the name of it to be honest, will check when I'm home.

Be warned the 'main guy' becomes quite irritating after a while, he's Canadian, and the warmup is obviously always the same. If I hear him say "these muscles get real tight to the body, so it's important to stretch them oot" again I may kill someone.

[Alex]

Isn't that the Paleo diet then?

[Pablo]

Hmm, I'd be ok with cutting out the grains, but I'd really miss dairy and fruit, and well sugar

I'm not sure how long I could keep that up for.

If I just greatly reduce my carb intake (almost completely cutting out all grains for example), but still kept the rest of my diet roughly the same (I'd still cut out most fatty foods), would I still lose some weight?

I've not got tons to lose, maybe about a stone, so I'm happy to lose it gradually. My most pressing concern is sorting out these stomach pains.