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    #46
    Originally posted by alunevans View Post
    if you're a non Scouser who lives out of town and are mainly an armchair LFC fan, it probably wouldn't do.

    the idea is to give people the ability to actually go to a match to watch a grassroots football team that is owned and run collectively by LFC supporters.

    if you can't get to a match locally then you'd be better off getting your grassroots footy fix from a lower league team that you can get to more easily.

    if you're a non Scouser who lives in Liverpool, then you're close enough to get to a game and then I reckon you'd enjoy being part of it.

    but if you live a good way away then it's not something that will probably have a bearing too much for you, other than if you think it's a good thing for fans to own football clubs and you want to keep an eye out for our results from afar.

    If it happens Al, I'll be involved as much as I can
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      #47
      Originally posted by The Wolfman View Post
      Aren't there probably near 100 lower league teams in liverpool anyway?

      half of them or more will be run by LFC supporters.
      i'm not sure they'll be run by LFC supporters in the same way. i'm sure they're run by Liverpool people but that's not quite the same thing.

      personally, i can only invest emotionally in a team that I have a reason to be partisan about. if i had a reason already to support Marine or whatever then life would be easier and I'd just watch them in addition to LFC.

      but i don't unfortunately. and such a team doesn't exist at grassroots level. AFC Liverpool would be that partisan grassroots team - a team owned and run by LFC fans on a one member one vote basis.

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        #48
        Originally posted by The Wolfman View Post
        Im sorry but they are the cocks who stole carras cake aren't they?
        no idea, i've not had any contact with them. but i am aware that there are numerous lfc fans groups emerging in the present climate, and it would be a good idea to make contact, get a handle on who they all are, and find out their views on this project.

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          #49
          that's fair enough.

          To be honest i don't see how you can support/ be involved with another team etc... however you dress it up, change its name.....


          It sounds like you want to try and change stuff, but you are diverting your attention away from LFC more than anything.
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            #50
            in a way i am. i'm a Liverpool fan and will remain so. but i can't see Premier League football offering the kind of fix it used to when I was growing up, when the game was not so tarnished by money, and when the link between club and players on the one hand, and fans on the other felt strong - and when fans weren't messed about all the time to satisfy financial concerns.

            so AS WELL AS my support for LFC, I want a grassroots footy fix. I can't invent partisanship so the current grassroots teams won't press my buttons.

            as i've said before, if I was telling everyone I followed Marine to get a grassroots footy fix, as well as LFC nobody would bat an eyelid.

            so if it's no problem for an LFC fan to support a grassroots footy team too, why not a grassroots footy team that WE set up, own and run ourselves?

            Originally posted by The Wolfman View Post
            that's fair enough.

            To be honest i don't see how you can support/ be involved with another team etc... however you dress it up, change its name.....


            It sounds like you want to try and change stuff, but you are diverting your attention away from LFC more than anything.

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              #51
              Originally posted by alunevans View Post
              as rafa has constantly said, the reserve league is a joke. if we were in my dad's day, we'd all be going to see the ressies cos the central league was great.

              besides, doesnt it take place in wrexham?

              i appreciate you don't like the idea.
              Originally posted by alunevans View Post
              You're right mick that people at FC United will be keen to help, as will the people at Wimbledon.

              I've made contact with the main guy at AFC Wimbledon, am in touch with the Supporters Direct organisation, and have had countless messages of support from FC United people who wish the project well.

              Ultimately the FC United people are good working class people who put the people before the money, and when they see a similar project elsewhere they'll back it and want to offer support and help, even if it's run by Liverpool.

              It's very heartening to see frankly, and it'd be nice too if some bonds of friendship between our clubs were developed as a result. There is too much poison in the rivalry between LFC and MUFC. Rivalry and banter is part of the fun, but poison is just poison in my book.

              As you say, some will choose to misunderstand, but every contact I've had from FC United has been from some outstanding people who love the game and have great values that any Scouser would happily back to the hilt.
              Liverpool Reserves play to a standard far above non-league clubs and play their matches at Warrington this season as has already been said.

              FC United hate Scousers as much as their 'Big Brother' and sing as many anti-Scouse songs at matches. If your idea takes off and you ever played FC United there would be far more trouble than at LFC vs MUFC games and it would be in the ground whereas in higher league football violence only happens away from grounds.

              Originally posted by The Wolfman View Post
              Aren't there probably near 100 lower league teams in liverpool anyway? half of them or more will be run by LFC supporters.
              Kevin Nolan, captain of Bolton Wanderers and a huge Liverpool fan, runs a non-league team in the city called Nicosia FC:

              Nicosia FC
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                #52
                Nicosia is a Sunday league team as I understand it. Great that he's helping out but there's a world of difference between Sunday league teams and what is being proposed here.

                I think that everyone interested accepts that there'd be a lower standard of football at AFC Liverpool. But when Rafa said the reserve league was a joke he wasn't referring to the standard of play. He was referring to the competition.

                Let's be honest, nobody really cares at a reserve game so it's hardly a satisfying experience. You don't watch the ressies to get caught up in the result but to keep tabs on the kids coming through.

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by rushscored4 View Post

                  FC United hate Scousers as much as their 'Big Brother' and sing as many anti-Scouse songs at matches. If your idea takes off and you ever played FC United there would be far more trouble than at LFC vs MUFC games and it would be in the ground whereas in higher league football violence only happens away from grounds.
                  I know when FC United come to play Skelmersdale United the Police have to call in other boroughs to help staff it.

                  Noticed you've made the front page of Non League Daily Al, good stuff

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by smither View Post
                    I know when FC United come to play Skelmersdale United the Police have to call in other boroughs to help staff it.

                    Noticed you've made the front page of Non League Daily Al, good stuff
                    yes but i didn't want to. i told them not to cover it yet but they went ahead anyhow.

                    as a result other media have been in touch. i've been trying to keep it low key for as long as possible as the point at the moment is simply to gauge support but i can't sit on it any longer really.

                    i wanted to wait til inter was nicely out the way yesterday at the very least but i've now let the echo be the first to have the "story" - such as it is at the moment. the last thing i wanted was some ****bag from the s*n running it, and the echo is our local paper too.

                    the story really is that i'm asking the question "would you like this additional club to exist?"

                    if people aren't arsed then it won't happen. if people respond enthusiastically then its got a chance to go a step further, but at the moment its simply a question to be posed. hopefully it'll be reported that way too as that's how i described it.

                    the ones i expect to respond positively fall into two camps. first are those who fancy some grassroots footy too and so may as well support a club run by LFC fans as they feel no allegiance to anyone else. and second are those who are currently priced out of the match and so need an LFC alternative. i'm sure we all know people amongst our friends and family who fall into the "priced out" category.

                    but its just a question at the mo. fellow supporters will answer the question for themselves. i suppose the good thing is that at least now the echo have got involved that the question will be asked early.

                    al

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                      #55
                      Traitors.

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by terrymac View Post
                        Traitors.

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                          #57
                          There's a forum now linked from the AFC Liverpool site at www.afcliverpool.org.uk

                          You may have heard the interview last night on CityTalk FM too.

                          That's linked from the forum. Come and have a nose.

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                            #58
                            You can now join AFC Liverpool.

                            Go to www.afcliverpool.org.uk and become a founder member.

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                              #59
                              Best of luck, but for me this is just a waste of time, there will only ever be one Liverpool , If you want to support a grass roots club why not support a local non league club. Dont think I should have any right to call the club Liverpool as you have no association with the club


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                                #60
                                Originally posted by souliv View Post
                                Best of luck, but for me this is just a waste of time, there will only ever be one Liverpool , If you want to support a grass roots club why not support a local non league club. Dont think I should have any right to call the club Liverpool as you have no association with the club


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                                I think to describe people who have passionately supported the club for years and years as having no association with the club, just because they can no longer afford Premiership ticket prices as very harsh, if not bordering on disrespectful.

                                I agree there will only ever be one Liverpool. Just a lot of us can no longer afford to go and watch it in the flesh. Those people will never stop supporting Liverpool. At least now they have a club with a passionate pro LFC identity instead if they want to watch a team in the flesh.

                                I can still afford to go in the league personally, but I've had to abandon cup games myself from this year onwards, and how long until the price rises in the league finally take that away from me too.

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