Suso [Sold to AC Milan]

[Shanks]

Someone needs to take a long hard look at our scouting system,
or start giving a few of these lads a break..


I know Darby, Pacheco etc have had a few bench warmers but a lot of these guys have been brought into the club via scouts/transfers.

Plessis
Nemeth
Kelly
Irwin
Eccleston
Ayala
Hansen
Gulacsi
Bouzanis
Amoo
Pacheco
Bruna
Brouwer
Buchtmann
Flora
Dalla Valle
Kacaniklic
Mavinga
Mendy
Oldfield
Palsson
Poloskei
San José
Saric
Simon
Threlfall
Weijl

[Deano]

Someone needs to take a long hard look at our scouting system,
or start giving a few of these lads a break..


I know Darby, Pacheco etc have had a few bench warmers but a lot of these guys have been brought into the club via scouts/transfers.

Plessis
Nemeth
Kelly
Irwin
Eccleston
Ayala
Hansen
Gulacsi
Bouzanis
Amoo
Pacheco
Bruna
Brouwer
Buchtmann
Flora
Dalla Valle
Kacaniklic
Mavinga
Mendy
Oldfield
Palsson
Poloskei
San José
Saric
Simon
Threlfall
Weijl

This lad will make it, I have no doubt

[Shaggy]

Someone needs to take a long hard look at our scouting system,
or start giving a few of these lads a break..


I know Darby, Pacheco etc have had a few bench warmers but a lot of these guys have been brought into the club via scouts/transfers.

Plessis
Nemeth
Kelly
Irwin
Eccleston
Ayala
Hansen
Gulacsi
Bouzanis
Amoo
Pacheco
Bruna
Brouwer
Buchtmann
Flora
Dalla Valle
Kacaniklic
Mavinga
Mendy
Oldfield
Palsson
Poloskei
San José
Saric
Simon
Threlfall
Weijl

But most if not all of those are 18 or under? You're way early here. Maybe in four or five years your point might be valid, but now? WTF? They're all kids.

[The_weatherman]

But most if not all of those are 18 or under? You're way early here. Maybe in four or five years your point might be valid, but now? WTF? They're all kids.

And aren't they all playing? Rafa has the reserves serving as under 18/20's basically and the younger ones are in the U-18's, I think we usually have the youngest reserve team in the league.

[red g]

Someone needs to take a long hard look at our scouting system,
or start giving a few of these lads a break..


I know Darby, Pacheco etc have had a few bench warmers but a lot of these guys have been brought into the club via scouts/transfers.

Plessis
Nemeth
Kelly
Irwin
Eccleston
Ayala
Hansen
Gulacsi
Bouzanis
Amoo
Pacheco
Bruna
Brouwer
Buchtmann
Flora
Dalla Valle
Kacaniklic
Mavinga
Mendy
Oldfield
Palsson
Poloskei
San José
Saric
Simon
Threlfall
Weijl

here is Scums academy, whats your point?

Joe Dudge
Oliver Gill
Matthew James
Federico Macheda
Scott Moffatt
Oliver Norwood
Cameron Stewart
Danny Welbeck
Nicholas Ajose
Robert Brady
Reece Brown
Conor Devlin
Joshua King
Davide Petrucci
Scott Wootton –
John Cofie
Larnell Cole
Ezekiel Fryers
Etzaz Hussain
Sam Johnstone
Will Keane
Jesse Lingard
Ra'vel Morrison
Tom Thorpe
Ryan Tunnicliffe –

[red g]

Someone needs to take a long hard look at our scouting system,
or start giving a few of these lads a break..


I know Darby, Pacheco etc have had a few bench warmers but a lot of these guys have been brought into the club via scouts/transfers.

Plessis
Nemeth
Kelly
Irwin
Eccleston
Ayala
Hansen
Gulacsi
Bouzanis
Amoo
Pacheco
Bruna
Brouwer
Buchtmann
Flora
Dalla Valle
Kacaniklic
Mavinga
Mendy
Oldfield
Palsson
Poloskei
San José
Saric
Simon
Threlfall
Weijl

i bet you more come through our academy in the next 5years than Wengers coca cola cup dream team

[kris90210]

Someone needs to take a long hard look at our scouting system,
or start giving a few of these lads a break..


I know Darby, Pacheco etc have had a few bench warmers but a lot of these guys have been brought into the club via scouts/transfers.

Plessis
Nemeth
Kelly
Irwin
Eccleston
Ayala
Hansen
Gulacsi
Bouzanis
Amoo
Pacheco
Bruna
Brouwer
Buchtmann
Flora
Dalla Valle
Kacaniklic
Mavinga
Mendy
Oldfield
Palsson
Poloskei
San José
Saric
Simon
Threlfall
Weijl

A lot of those guys are highly rated though:
Dalla Valle
San Jose
Buchtmann
Bruna
Pacheco
Amoo
Bouzanis
Eccleston
Kelly
Nemeth
Wisdom
Pepper
Derby

Could see at least 1-2 of those guys making the breakthough.

[RoadEnd]

But most if not all of those are 18 or under? You're way early here. Maybe in four or five years your point might be valid, but now? WTF? They're all kids.

Michael Owen was 17 on his debut and played his first full season when he was 18.

Robbie Fowler was 18 when he scored 5 against Fulham in the League Cup.

Wayne Rooney was 17/18 in his first two years at Everton and signed by manure at 19

If there is a special talent among any of our reserves, they should be good enough at 18/19 years old.

[Shanks]

The point being...

The Mancs and Arsenal will play a good reserve/youth team in the League Cup and will generally be confident of getting through..

We could not play those lads and have the same confidence..

[Shaggy]

Michael Owen was 17 on his debut and played his first full season when he was 18.

Robbie Fowler was 18 when he scored 5 against Fulham in the League Cup.

Wayne Rooney was 17/18 in his first two years at Everton and signed by manure at 19

If there is a special talent among any of our reserves, they should be good enough at 18/19 years old.

They're the exceptions to the rule, most top class players develop steadily.

[Fivex]

Michael Owen was 17 on his debut and played his first full season when he was 18.

Robbie Fowler was 18 when he scored 5 against Fulham in the League Cup.

Wayne Rooney was 17/18 in his first two years at Everton and signed by manure at 19

If there is a special talent among any of our reserves, they should be good enough at 18/19 years old.

You can't be depending on under-developed kids though at such a young age, not with how the premiership is now. The athleticism and strength needed is so much more insense than when those guys broke through.

The last thing we need a couple of years from now is a generation of crocked wonderkids.

[Exiled_red]

I just think there has been alot of hype around a number of players, I think labeling them the new whoever puts alot of pressure on them and is often misguided at such a young age, which is why more often than not they fail to live up to expectations. I know this will be seen by some as a negative approach but statistically probably less than 5 out of every 100 promising 16 year old kids will play for us in the Premiership

[RoadEnd]

They're the exceptions to the rule, most top class players develop steadily.

which is why I put special in bold

Is there just one of those players that could emerge as a real talent. I hope so.

[Ketario]

Suso Sudio

[Exiled_red]

I think there is an issue here, it's not just the failure to produce special players, although that is the ideal situation, but the fall back should be selling players who aren't good enough for us to lower Premiership or Championship clubs for a few million quid to boost the transfer kitty. The scum sold the likes of Richardson, Rossi, Pique etc all of whom they deemed not good enough for £5m+. I can only think of Warnock, Wright and Guthrie who we've sold in the last 5 or so years for more than £1m.