Stoke's Matthew Etherington under pressure to settle huge gambling debts

[saj]

By the way, we have engaged in the great nature vs nurture debate that psychologists have been having since time began. I am a firm believer that addictions such as gambling are down to nurture and not down to the genetic makeup of the individual (nature). Therefore, in my eyes it cannot be classed as an illness in the same category as cancer, aids etc. I wouldn't even classify as it as an illness (but all it is, is a category you can call it whatever you want). The OCD I suffer from is down to something that happened to me in my earlier life and not down to a physiolocal abnormality in my brain

[dom9]

With all of those mentioned above, the individual suffering from cancer, aids or whatever can have tests done to prove that they suffer from something as they are physcial illnesses. It shows in there blood, chromosomes, they get tumours etc etc. These physical illnesses can be cured or controllled with drugs or even removal of the actual tumour.

Whereas how can someone be proven to be an addict? They carry out studies where they scan the brains of gamblers and say things like "studies have found that that gambler have a slightly larger part of the left side of the brain". But if they carried out the same scans on every individual in the world, they would find that 99.9% of the people who had an enlarged left side of the brain were not gambling addicts. This is the reason why these studies are highly subjective and the exact reason why there will never be a medical cure. Are people addcicted to online gaming ill too?

Addiction is down to a deficiency in the individuals personality, hence the reason why counselling can work. I have OCD (similar to addiction) but yet I will never class that as an illness

Are you a psychololgist?

[dom9]

By the way, we have engaged in the great nature vs nurture debate that psychologists have been having since time began. I am a firm believer that addictions such as gambling are down to nurture and not down to the genetic makeup of the individual (nature). Therefore, in my eyes it cannot be classed as an illness in the same category as cancer, aids etc. I wouldn't even classify as it as an illness (but all it is, is a category you can call it whatever you want). The OCD I suffer from is down to something that happened to me in my earlier life and not down to a physiolocal abnormality in my brain

Is schizophrenia an illness?

[saj]

Are you a psychololgist?

Ha ha - I'm not going into. I've studied it and have got a big interest in it. A lot of is bollocks and highly subjective especially psychoanalysis (the **** Freud preached). But some of it makes sense such as behaviorism (classical conditioning, pavlovs dog etc etc)

[Reece]

Is schizophrenia an illness?

Yes

[Reece]

Is schizophrenia an illness?

No.

[Guest]

This thread has taken a really weird tangent. It all started off the general football forum.

[saj]

Yes

No.

Ha ha quality. Reece, you are showing signs of a split personality.

[dom9]

Ha ha - I'm not going into. I've studied it and have got a big interest in it. A lot of is bollocks and highly subjective especially psychoanalysis (the **** Freud preached). But some of it makes sense such as behaviorism (classical conditioning, pavlovs dog etc etc)

I have a Psychology degree and can categorically state that what you are talking ****e.

[Guest]

I have a Psychology degree and can categorically state that what you are talking ****e.

[Neil Young]

Ha ha quality. Reece, you are showing signs of a split personality.

No he isn't. He's showing signs of being unoriginal.

http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/show...5&postcount=15

http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/show...6&postcount=16

http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/show...8&postcount=17

[saj]

This thread has taken a really weird tangent. It all started off the general football forum.

Yes and no. It's quite relevant to be fair to the article as some have sympathy for Etherington whereas other don't. People (myself included) are trying to back up why we don't have sympathy because we believe it's a behavioural issue, whereas those who do have sympathy are saying it's a medical condition. As i said, this has forever been a massive debate in Psychology. This issue/thread should probably be moved to the library

[Reece]

No he isn't. He's showing signs of being unoriginal.

http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/show...5&postcount=15

http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/show...6&postcount=16

http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/show...8&postcount=17

I genuinely hadn't read that.

[dom9]

Yes and no. It's quite relevant to be fair to the article as some have sympathy for Etherington whereas other don't. People (myself included) are trying to back up why we don't have sympathy because we believe it's a behavioural issue, whereas those who do have sympathy are saying it's a medical condition. As i said, this has forever been a massive debate in Psychology. This issue/thread should probably be moved to the library

Put it it the library once you put together decent coherent argument, rather than some ramblings on subject you don't understand.

Is it a GCSE in psychology that you have studied?

[saj]

I have a Psychology degree and can categorically state that what you are talking ****e.

Very educated response there. You do not need to have a Psychology degree to have an opinion on which perspective or theory you believe in the most. The key thing here is opinion. Give me one specific instance where I have "talked ****e" and back up why it is absolutely not true. Given that Psyhcology is not a Science IMO and there is no right or wrong answer, most of it is subjective. Therefore I think you may struggle...