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    Mourinho still getting his players to cheat

    I hope they throw the book at the cheating cunts

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    UEFA vow to probe Real Madrid after Jose Mourinho is accused of having two of his stars deliberately sent off at Ajax
    By Sportsmail Reporter
    Last updated at 11:33 AM on 24th November 2010
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    Jose Mourinho faces a UEFA investigation after Real Madrid were accused of having two players deliberately sent off at Ajax.
    Both Xabi Alonso and Sergio Ramos were dismissed in the dying stages for time-wasting - despite Real comfortably leading 4-0 in Holland.

    Both players were shown second yellows, meaning they will miss the meaningless final game against Auxerre next month. They are now guaranteed to be available for the start of the crunch knock-out stages.


    UEFA, European football's governing body, confirmed they will now probe the incidents in Tuesday's Champions League clash at the Amsterdam Arena.
    UEFA said its disciplinary unit will look at the incidents after receiving Thomson's official report. In UEFA's disciplinary code, article 10 allows for suspensions of more than one match in cases of unsporting conduct.

    Mourinho attempted to thrust the standard of Scottish refereeing in the spotlight again by trying to justify the sending offs.
    The former Chelsea boss claimed he was puzzled by official Craig Thomson's decision to show Alonso and Ramos their second yellow cards for time-wasting.

    But Dutch TV coverage showed Mourinho speaking to Alonso moments before his dismissal. And Spanish newspaper Marca published pictures of Mourinho passing a spoken message to Ramos via goalkeepers Jerzy Dudek and Iker Casillas.

    Casillas claimed: 'Dudek was asking me about my stomach problems. I told Ramos to keep an eye on one of their strikers, who was a constant threat inside the area.'

    Jose Mourinho could be punished

    Ramos insisted Real had not hatched a plan to ensure both players would be dismissed despite shaking the referee's hand after being sent off. He was dismissed for having taken an age to take a goalkick after spending several seconds adjusting his socks.
    'We didn't go looking for the cards,' Ramos said. 'Seeing what the score was, the referee could have saved them. But he sent me off and that's that.'

    Paisley-born Thomson's decision to give Ramos and Alonso their marching orders put the performances of Scottish referees in the headlines again.

    Referees in Scotland are currently on strike at the amount of recent public criticism and pressure they have received for their officiating in the Scottish Premier League.

    Mourinho, meanwhile, when asked about the red cards of Alonso and Ramos, claimed Thomson had made some 'strange' decisions and claimed it was an 'easy game to control' for the Scot.
    The Real manager said: 'I spoke with many players throughout the game, not only with Ramos and Alonso.

    'Stories sell, but the important thing is the 4-0 win and the fantastic game we had. Let’s talk about that and not other things.
    'The sendings-off came after an easy game where the referee has shown some strange yellows.

    'They are cards that I don’t like. It was an easy game to control. Ajax made a lot of fouls and in the first from Ramos he was shown a yellow card.'

    The Portuguese coach admitted it did not matter that Alonso and Ramos would miss their final meaningless group game at home to Auxerre but insisted he still wanted to beat the French side when they meet at the Bernabeu in December.

    He added: 'The red cards we picked up don’t matter hugely as we have already qualified ahead of the next game against Auxerre. If Ramos and Alonso can’t play against Auxerre then there will be others, but we are not going to gift the game to the French. We want to win them all.'


    Previous cases of players deliberately seeking cautions to manipulate the timing of suspensions have involved David Beckham, Lucas Neill and Juninho.

    Beckham was England captain when he intentionally committed a yellow-card foul against Wales in a World Cup qualifier played in 2004.
    He later explained he'd sustained a rib injury which he knew would sideline him for the next match, so wanted his second caution of the qualifying campaign to serve a one-match ban.
    FIFA president Sepp Blatter described Beckham's action as ;disappointing because it is not the behavior that befits an ambassador of football and fair play.'
    Australia skipper Neill admitted getting a yellow card against Qatar in a World Cup qualifier last year so he could serve a ban immediately and not risk carrying it into the finals in South Africa.
    In 2008, Lyon playmaker Juninho was fined £10,000 by UEFA for deliberately incurring a second Champions League yellow card against Fiorentina so he would miss the meaningless group tie with Bayern and be all clear of suspension ahead of the knockout stage.




    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...#ixzz16CeXO9fE

    #2
    Meh

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      #3
      Doesn't make any sense to me? I thought Yellows picked up in the group stages couldn't be carried into the knockout rounds? So why couldn't he just rest them for the last match if they're that important?

      JURGEN KLOPP - LIVERPOOL MANAGER

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        #4
        They carry on until the quarters now.
        96 Never Forgotten

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          #5
          It's stupid, but the fault is with the rules, not with Madrid.

          It's cheeky for sure, and gamesmanship if you like. But they're playing by the rules and just exploiting them to their own advantage. I would do the same.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Imustbreakyou View Post
            Meh
            The ref shouldn't have booked them really, IMO the refs should just try to ignore that behaviour if possible, it made no difference to the game really and if they could just check up on who is on a yellow it's fairly easy to do.

            But other than that, meh.
            * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
              It's stupid, but the fault is with the rules, not with Madrid.

              It's cheeky for sure, and gamesmanship if you like. But they're playing by the rules and just exploiting them to their own advantage. I would do the same.
              I would have no qualms about our players doing this.
              * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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                #8
                Referees have a duty to referee the game based on what has occured and by ignoring all outside influences on the games including perceptions of players etc...
                96 Never Forgotten

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
                  It's stupid, but the fault is with the rules, not with Madrid.

                  It's cheeky for sure, and gamesmanship if you like. But they're playing by the rules and just exploiting them to their own advantage. I would do the same.


                  ****ing smart if you ask me....and a reason why Jose wins everything in sight. He's crafty.

                  Also this isn't the first time something like this has happened. Its been going on for years in the champions league FFS.
                  "When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah

                  "looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Fernandinho View Post
                    Referees have a duty to referee the game based on what has occured and by ignoring all outside influences on the games including perceptions of players etc...
                    Meh again. I am so sick of all this rules bull**** when they are even defying common sense, I know I would not let someone manipulate the rules in that way, i.e. take advantage of me as a ref. Not having a go at you btw, got annoyed in another thread about ****ed countries and economy.
                    * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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                      #11
                      While I totally agree about it comman sense wise, it referees took into consideration their perceptions of players the media could seriously manipulate how much a player dives or how dirty a player is, affecting referee decisions.
                      96 Never Forgotten

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Fernandinho View Post
                        While I totally agree about it comman sense wise, it referees took into consideration their perceptions of players the media could seriously manipulate how much a player dives or how dirty a player is, affecting referee decisions.
                        We'll just disagree about this, sometimes things are best ingored if you want to get to the right result. IMO.
                        * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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                          #13
                          Not breaking any rules but as that ex-ref said on SSN earlier, it's circumventing the rules. That makes it tantamount to cheating. Amazingly they're being investigated but nothing will happen. They should ban both players for both legs of the knockout game
                          Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                            #14
                            The simplest way of solving this issue, is to just have a card amnesty after the group phase ends.

                            As with plenty of **** ups in football, Uefa could (but wont) easily fix this.

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                              #15
                              I could've sworn there was an amnesty after the group stage but it must've been scrapped?
                              Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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