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    #136
    Originally posted by Rudo View Post
    Big fan but i thought he was a bit nervy tonight.


    Not his best performance for us last night. He's been done in a few games now with players going past him to the the byline in the way Andy Johnson did. GJ would have been hammered for those mistakes. Think his future's definitely more at centre back when he bulks up a bit more.

    I just hope he doesnt end up over-exposed like Insua did last year. If I remember, we were all raving about him after his first few games too.

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      #137
      Originally posted by Baracus View Post
      Srktel makes Kelly nervous. Move him out the way and put Carragher in there and he will be as solid as a cock
      Yeah of course he does
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        #138
        Just out of interest, how much do you think Kelly is worth on current form?
        *Except Michael, who died.

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          #139
          Originally posted by Alex View Post
          Just out of interest, how much do you think Kelly is worth on current form?
          Not much - £1-2m. That big eared guy we got rid of Stephen Wright, showed IMO as much promise than Kelly and he went for £1.5m I think
          Last edited by saj; 27-01-11, 01:09 PM.
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            #140
            Originally posted by Baracus View Post
            Srktel makes Kelly nervous. Move him out the way and put Carragher in there and he will be as solid as a cock
            freudian?
            "that is my opinion and that is more important than what anyone else has to say about it" - Mr A.Fergusson, Oct 2011

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              #141
              Originally posted by saj View Post
              Not much - £1-2m. That big eared guy we got rid of Stephen Wright, showed IMO as much promise than Kelly and he went for £1.5m I think

              Not a chance - Kelly has had a few man of the match performances and has really caught the eye - Wright was never that good.


              Saying Kelly could be worth as little as £1m when we sold Wright amost 10 years ago for £1.5m is crazy talk! (I think we actually ended up getting £3m for Wright anyway).
              Last edited by rudedog; 27-01-11, 02:36 PM.

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                #142
                Originally posted by rudedog View Post
                Not a chance - Kelly has had a few man of the match performances and has really caught the eye - Wright was never that good.


                Saying Kelly could be worth as little as £1m when we sold Wright amost 10 years ago for £1.5m is crazy talk! (I think we actually ended up getting £3m for Wright anyway).


                At the very least £5-6m but it would be crazy to sell cause his potential is endless.

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                  #143
                  Originally posted by rudedog View Post
                  Not a chance - Kelly has had a few man of the match performances and has really caught the eye - Wright was never that good.


                  Saying Kelly could be worth as little as £1m when we sold Wright amost 10 years ago for £1.5m is crazy talk! (I think we actually ended up getting £3m for Wright anyway).
                  Is it though? We signed Heskey for £11m back then. The equivalent player of Heskey in this day and age would not cost £22m now. It would probably be the same price. The football market was at it's peak around the year 2000/01/02 onwards. Take teams such as Chelsea, Man City and Real Madrid out of the equation and I can guarentee teams were spending more money back then than they are now, in particular the Italian teams. A lot of the Italian teams are skint now as a result of the stupid money they spent at the start of Millenium
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                    #144
                    Originally posted by Drago View Post


                    At the very least £5-6m but it would be crazy to sell cause his potential is endless.
                    He's played 22 games for us and all of a sudden he's worth £6m?

                    If he was young striker and had played 20 games and scored 10 goals or something, then yes you could say he's worth that. But he's a defender who's put in a couple of good performances.
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                      #145
                      Originally posted by saj View Post
                      He's played 22 games for us and all of a sudden he's worth £6m?

                      If he was young striker and had played 20 games and scored 10 goals or something, then yes you could say he's worth that. But he's a defender who's put in a couple of good performances.
                      I think it depends what you mean. It would be madness for us to sell a young, versatile player for any less than that (~£6m). Would anyone pay that, well that is a different issue. Certainly in order to get a replacement of better quality we would have to pay that sort of money (and probably pay them much higher wages into the bargain).
                      Last edited by dww; 27-01-11, 03:36 PM.
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                      -- William Blake

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                        #146
                        I only ask because we were talking about it last night in the pub. Someone was saying Kelly is worth nothing much (£1-2mil) becuase he is young and has only really been doing well for 6 months. But others were saying 6-7mil. Based on the fact that players of a similar age are going for more money. I think if he does it again for another season he will be worth that. But time will tell
                        *Except Michael, who died.

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                          #147
                          Originally posted by Alex View Post
                          I only ask because we were talking about it last night in the pub. Someone was saying Kelly is worth nothing much (£1-2mil) becuase he is young and has only really been doing well for 6 months. But others were saying 6-7mil. Based on the fact that players of a similar age are going for more money. I think if he does it again for another season he will be worth that. But time will tell


                          Spot on. His current value is hardly anything. His potential value is higher but potential is meaningless unless it's backed up with 1-2 seasons as a regular first team player.
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                            #148
                            Originally posted by dww View Post
                            I think it depends what you mean. It would be madness for us to sell a young, versatile player for any less than that (~£6m). Would anyone pay that, well that is a different issue. Certainly in order to get a replacement of better quality we would have to pay that sort of money (and probably pay them much higher wages into the bargain).
                            Exactly which is why it was madness why to got rid of Insua. A lot of people on this forum in particular were happy to see the back of him. You had people saying how ****ing Konchesky was a better player than Insua when we first signed him - that theory got refuted
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                              #149
                              I'd put a 10m tag on Kelly already. The potential is there for all to see. Not many FB's have this kind of composure at such a young age. He's not all about physicality. He can use his brains too when he has the ball at his feet.
                              Patience when teased often, transforms into rage

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                                #150
                                Originally posted by saj View Post
                                Is it though? We signed Heskey for £11m back then. The equivalent player of Heskey in this day and age would not cost £22m now. It would probably be the same price. The football market was at it's peak around the year 2000/01/02 onwards. Take teams such as Chelsea, Man City and Real Madrid out of the equation and I can guarentee teams were spending more money back then than they are now, in particular the Italian teams. A lot of the Italian teams are skint now as a result of the stupid money they spent at the start of Millenium
                                Its very difficult to say what the 2000 version of Heskey would be worth in todays market as our perceptions of him now are clouded by how he's turned out.

                                Would a player of Darren Bents level have been sold for £24m 10 years ago? I very much doubt it.

                                Regardless of the above, my main issue was with the comparison between Kelly and Wright - I think Kelly has been much better than Wright ever was.

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