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Stop the cyberhate
from now on I will skip talking about our finances. That is a promise and will save myself from looking like a 
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Dont know what you're talking about fella.Comment
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It is the INTENT that counts. Yes Alves dived and play acted but what would have happened if hadn't done that? Most probably no red card for a sending off offence. It was a red card tackle by Pepe. If Alves had stood his ground then he would probably have broken his leg.Originally posted by Rudo View Post
Most of the play acting is something the players must do to so the referee will react. If they don't play act then they will in most cases not get a free-kick or the player booked/sent off for the same offence. If the referee booked more players and gave more free-kicks when the players try to stand on his feet then it would be less play acting. Ban players that make clear dives and play acts a lot after the games and you will get less players that do that.
Play acting is something a player MUST do in some cases because of the referee, not always, in some cases. Diving is a completely different thing. To dive when the opponent don't even try and make a foul is never ok.
Alves play acted a lot, Di Maria dived a lot. A clear difference.Stop the cyberhate
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Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
Stop the cyberhate
from now on I will skip talking about our finances. That is a promise and will save myself from looking like a
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Originally posted by Rudo View Post
Make your mind up Robbie! "In a game which is all about money and winning points - which earn you even more money - I'm not too fussed about simulation. Everyone, and I mean everyone, does it to gain a little edge. It doesn't wreck matches."
I sure am! "Savage made a poor tackle on Tottenham's Justin Edinburgh who retaliated by swinging his arm out. Contact was minimal, but Savage fell to the ground. Edinburgh was sent off for raising his arms"Originally posted by Rudo View Post
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi2PoeGbDC4"]YouTube - ROBBIE SAVAGE DIVING AGAIN[/ame]
Leicester midfielder Robbie Savage has received threatening hate mail since he was involved in a bust-up at Derby last week.
The 26-year-old midfielder was accused of diving to win the penalty that handed Leicester a 3-2 win at Pride Park.
Hahahaah!Originally posted by Rudo View Post
Messi league starts 28, league goals 31, assists 17
CL 9 starts, 11 goals, 3 assists
Rooney league starts 22, league goals 10, assists 11
CL 8 starts, 3 goals, 2 assists.
Yes, it's "so close".Comment
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F'in legendOriginally posted by Chris View Posthttp://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opin...cle587037.html
Make your mind up Robbie! "In a game which is all about money and winning points - which earn you even more money - I'm not too fussed about simulation. Everyone, and I mean everyone, does it to gain a little edge. It doesn't wreck matches."
I sure am! "Savage made a poor tackle on Tottenham's Justin Edinburgh who retaliated by swinging his arm out. Contact was minimal, but Savage fell to the ground. Edinburgh was sent off for raising his arms"
YouTube - ROBBIE SAVAGE DIVING AGAIN
Leicester midfielder Robbie Savage has received threatening hate mail since he was involved in a bust-up at Derby last week.
The 26-year-old midfielder was accused of diving to win the penalty that handed Leicester a 3-2 win at Pride Park.
Hahahaah!
Messi league starts 28, league goals 31, assists 17
CL 9 starts, 11 goals, 3 assists
Rooney league starts 22, league goals 10, assists 11
CL 8 starts, 3 goals, 2 assists.
Yes, it's "so close".
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Champions League - Real fans threaten 'ref' Townsend
Fri, 29 Apr 10:02:00 2011
Television pundit Andy Townsend was threatened by Real Madrid fans on Wednesday after they mistook him for referee Wolfgang Stark.
Townsend had covered Real's bad-tempered Champions League semi-final against Barcelona for ITV, and was having dinner with crew members including presenter Adrian Chiles.
German referee Stark angered Real by sending off Pepe an hour into the game, which Barcelona won 2-0.
The decision provoked a furious reaction from Real boss Jose Mourinho, who was sent to the stands and later described it as a "scandal".
Townsend told the Daily Mail: "I went into a restaurant and was eating when I noticed people looking at me. Some of them started taking pictures and then someone came and gave me a pot plant, saying, “This is for you” with a funny look on his face.
"There were 10 of us around the table thinking, ‘What is going on here?’ When I stood up I got booed and when I went to the loo I got followed there and back. A waiter escorted me to my seat... I didn’t know why!
"Then people came up to me, talking aggressively in Spanish and there was a man shouting at me from the other side of the restaurant. It was all getting out of control.
"Then it dawned on me. Because I still had my UEFA accreditation around my neck they thought I was the referee. To them I was Wolfgang Stark! So I had to turn around and tell them I was from English television.
"Adrian’s started calling me Wolfie. But actually there’s a sinister edge to it. The crowd were baying for the referee’s blood."
Townsend blamed Mourinho for inciting Real's fans, adding: "They totally saw the referee as the villain of the piece. That’s how Mourinho whips up a frenzy. As ITV were going off air there was actually a fight going on in front of me in the stadium - two men were exchanging blows. And these were the decent seats.
"I witnessed first-hand the effect Mourinho has on fans. I wouldn’t want to see him back in England."
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/290420...-townsend.html
The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.Comment
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Originally posted by Chris View Posthttp://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opin...cle587037.html
Make your mind up Robbie! "In a game which is all about money and winning points - which earn you even more money - I'm not too fussed about simulation. Everyone, and I mean everyone, does it to gain a little edge. It doesn't wreck matches."
I sure am! "Savage made a poor tackle on Tottenham's Justin Edinburgh who retaliated by swinging his arm out. Contact was minimal, but Savage fell to the ground. Edinburgh was sent off for raising his arms"
YouTube - ROBBIE SAVAGE DIVING AGAIN
Leicester midfielder Robbie Savage has received threatening hate mail since he was involved in a bust-up at Derby last week.
The 26-year-old midfielder was accused of diving to win the penalty that handed Leicester a 3-2 win at Pride Park.
Hahahaah!
Messi league starts 28, league goals 31, assists 17
CL 9 starts, 11 goals, 3 assists
Rooney league starts 22, league goals 10, assists 11
CL 8 starts, 3 goals, 2 assists.
Yes, it's "so close".
If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?Comment
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Its an old link, just showing his hypocrisy on the cheating issue.Comment
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Quite a good read...
James Lawton: Mourinho lit this acrid bonfire of the vanities but Barça added fuel
On Wednesday night the talented Busquets' behaviour was of the same despicable order as last year's semi-final with Inter as he clutched his head in mock agony
For once it is too easy just to demonise Jose Mourinho. We can only do this if we ignore the fact that the execution squad which put football to a substantial death at the Bernabeu this week was hardly dressed exclusively in the white of his Real Madrid.
Too many of them represented Barcelona, which is supposed to be the font of all the modern game's virtue, to permit another facile denunciation of the man who will apparently do anything to win.
True, Mourinho produced another doomsday gameplan. True, also, that even his own players – and most notably Cristiano Ronaldo – made clear their desire to be playing in a style more in keeping with the tradition of the club which has nine European titles against its name.
Another irrefutable charge against the Special One: he fell victim to a game that the great Alfredo di Stefano, who contributed magnificently to so many of those triumphs, claimed he was playing before last week's relatively small coup against Barça in the Copa del Rey. He was beaten without giving his players the chance to make a proper fight.
Yet if the stadium where Lionel Messi ultimately reminded us of his genius was in need of fumigation at the finish, it was absurd that Mourinho, having been banished from the touchline, became in so many eyes the sole occupant of the dock.
Nothing that came as a result of Mourinho's tactics was more disfiguring of football than the wretched play-acting of Barça's Dani Alves, Sergio Busquets and Pedro. When Real's Pepe was dismissed by referee Wolfgang Stark and any chance for the early second-half stirrings of a Real counter-offensive was smashed – for a crime that demanded no more than a yellow card – Alves' performance reached a theatrical level that was grotesque. It became even more nauseating when, as his stretcher crossed the touchline, he reached out and tapped the thigh of one of the bearers. The order was to put down the stretcher and let him get on with the game.
This was not, however, the worst thing we saw from Barça. That distinction belonged, for a second straight Champions League semi-final, to Busquets. At the Nou Camp last year he shamelessly feigned serious injury, before glancing up to see Internazionale's Thiago Motta raging at the red card he had just received for the slightest of collisions. On Wednesday night the talented Busquets' behaviour was of the same despicable order as he clutched his head in mock agony.
We know about all the glories of Barcelona, of Messi and Xavi and Wednesday's absentee Andres Iniesta, but then we also saw again the sickening cynicism of Busquets and Alves. By all means, give to Barcelona what is their due: credit for an extraordinary few years of success, a massive contribution to Spain's World Cup, but if Messi redeemed them this week he did not altogether reinstate the idea that they should be heading for some entirely jubilant coronation at Wembley next month.
Certainly the idea of a wonder team, one capable of going into a European final and producing the mastery of Real in 1960 or Celtic in 1967 or Milan in 1994, was hardly advertised by Barça this week until they had a man advantage and the space which Messi can, with a speck of encouragement, so easily devour. But then how much of that had to do with the grim pragmatism of Mourinho? Quite a lot, you have to believe, before the shocking ejection of Pepe.
It can be no comfort for Mourinho – and nor should it be. If he lost a match he had placed on such a fine edge of calculation, he also lost his argument with Di Stefano. In his coach's vanity to neutralise the feted Barça, to make a victory that could only add lustre to his reputation for dark alchemy, he sacrificed the potential of Ronaldo to compete on equal terms with his rival Messi, the possibility that Kaka might rediscover some of his creativity, the finishing power of Karim Benzema and the aggressive instincts of Gonzalo Higuain.
Di Stefano said to Mourinho, "You have great players, use them, make them play to their ability. That is what great coaches do."
Yet rather than arming Real, Mourinho was plainly more intent on disabling Barcelona. Last year it worked, but then Internazionale were not Real; they were under-achievers who may have corralled a diminished Serie A but had made no kind of impact beyond the borders of Italy. Anything they achieved on the wider stage was striking progress and Mourinho unquestionably played a modest hand with mesmerising acumen.
In Madrid, as Di Stefano has felt obliged to say, the nature of the challenge has been profoundly different. Mourinho may have imagined himself with some justice bigger than Chelsea and Inter, but Madrid? No, not the club who pay beyond reason to support their dreams, not the club of Di Stefano, Zidane and Ronaldo; they do not skulk in the shadows of second place.
It will be fascinating to see what he does now in the Nou Camp. What can he do? Fiddle in the face of Barcelona's full court press and hope, outlandishly, to nick some kind of result? It is hardly feasible.
No less intriguing now is the reaction at Old Trafford to the sudden crisis of the man who is so widely believed to be the natural successor to Sir Alex Ferguson. If Mourinho has yet to convince Real that he is bigger than their tradition, if he struggles for the results that alone justify the arrogance of his belief that he can always operate on entirely his own terms, it is hardly the most compelling case for the United succession.
United have some priorities of their own. They have, after all, been known to play a bit of football in their time. Mourinho offers no more than the promise of winning. Though there are few more beguiling enticements in the game, unfortunately it does not come with a guarantee.
It is why the good name of football and Real Madrid is, even after this week's acrid bonfire, in rather less peril than Jose Mourinho.
Do Barcelona get special favours? How contentious red cards have helped the Catalans - especially against Mourinho
Didier Drogba
Barcelona 2-1 Chelsea, 23 February 2005, Champions League. Referee: Anders Frisk (Swe)
Challenging keeper Victor Valdes after a weak back pass, Drogba got an even weaker second yellow card. Verdict: Wrong
Asier del Horno
Chelsea 1-2 Barcelona, 22 February 2006, Champions League. Referee: Terje Hauge (Nor)
A clumsy bodycheck on Lionel Messi was met with a red card for Del Horno. Verdict: Correct
Thiago Motta
Barcelona 1-0 Internazionale, 28 April 2010, Champions League. Referee: Frank de Bleeckere (Bel)
Motta went for raising his hands to Sergio Busquets, despite minimal contact. Verdict: Wrong
Sergio Ramos
Barcelona 5-0 Real Madrid, 29 November 2010, La Liga. Ref: Eduardo Gonzalez (Sp)
A deserved dismissal as a frustrated Ramos shoved Carles Puyol's face in the dying moments. Verdict: Correct
Robin van Persie
Barcelona 3-1 Arsenal, 8 March 2011, Ch League. Ref: Massimo Busacca (Swit)
Not against a Mourinho side, but Barcelona profit as Van Persie is given a second yellow for kicking the ball away, claiming he did not hear the whistle. Verdict: Wrong
Raul Albiol
Real Madrid 1-1 Barcelona, 16 April 2011, La Liga. Referee: Cesar Muniz Fernandez (Sp)
Last-man Albiol wrestled Barcelona's David Villa to the ground inside the area. Verdict: Correct
Angel di Maria
Real Madrid 1-0 Barcelona, 20 April 2011, Copa del Rey. Referee: Alberto Undiano (Sp)
Second yellow for Di Maria, as he tripped Messi at the end of extra time. Verdict: Correct
Pepe Real
Madrid 0-2 Barcelona, 27 April 2011, Champions League. Referee: Wolfgang Stark (Ger)
Pepe given harsh red for raising foot on Dani Alves. Verdict: Wrong
Michael Butler
Battle of the Bernabeu
46 Fouls committed by the sides on Wednesday, 19 more than in the other semi-final on Tuesday.
72 per cent The amount of possession Barça enjoyed on Wednesday.
129 Passes made by Barcelona's Sergio Busquets. Real Madrid's highest passer was Xabi Alonso, with 25.
4 The number of passes completed by Cristiano Ronaldo in Barcelona's half.
7 The number of red cards awarded to a Jose Mourinho team against Barcelona, including one in each of the last five meetings.
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Great article and 100% spot on.
The behaviour of Barca was appalling, don't think anyone can disagree. Great team to watch but with the stunts they pulled the other night it totally overshadows everything else imo. They went too far.
It's a shame because i would like to like them so to speak. not support them or anything but think yeah what a class team they are in all aspects.Comment
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The Van Persie sending off in particular was disgusting, It would be interesting to see a similar list of decisions that go the scums way.The times they are a changin'.Comment
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Yep the Van Persie sending off was farcical, they got numerous decisions go there way at Stamford Bridge in the 2009 semi's as well...Chelsea had 2 or 3 genuine penalty claims.Comment
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