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  • rudedog
    Pig hater
    • Feb 2007
    • 9911

    #8491
    Originally posted by Mark79
    A good recap thread of the PL’s investigation against Man City.

    https://twitter.com/lovefutebol/stat...25930324861437
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    Last edited by rudedog; 16-01-24, 10:04 PM.

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    • Mark79
      Paisley
      • Jun 2008
      • 11006

      #8492
      It's been deleted.
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      • Exiled_red
        Paisley
        • Nov 2007
        • 55280

        #8493
        [ame="https://twitter.com/sportingintel/status/1747398758025801826"]https://twitter.com/sportingintel/status/1747398758025801826[/ame]
        The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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        • frank the tank
          Paisley
          • Mar 2008
          • 12892

          #8494
          How come Everton have been charged with one breach, gone through that and punished......and then charged with a second breach very quickly.

          But City are having all of their 115 charges packaged up into one case??? What the **** is all that about??? Pick one charge, and go through the process asap ffs
          Last edited by frank the tank; 17-01-24, 06:52 AM.

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          • Exiled_red
            Paisley
            • Nov 2007
            • 55280

            #8495
            Originally posted by frank the tank
            How come Everton have been charged with one breach, gone through that and punished......and then charged with a second breach very quickly.

            But City are having all of their 115 charges packaged up into one case??? What the **** is all that about??? Pick one charge, and go through the process asap ffs
            The Everton (and Forest) cases have all the information the figures aren't disputed by either side as they all went through the books, at most there is a dispute about what expenses should and shouldn't be eligible for exclusion from P&S rules.

            The City situation is complicated, there is dispute about the source of money that went officially through the books and allegations of 2ndary contracts that didn't go through the club's books. City are also dispute the accuracy of the documents and how they were obtained as well as any other way they can drag out the process.
            The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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            • Slinky Skills
              Micka "don't f*** with me" Wallace
              • Sep 2007
              • 20516

              #8496
              [ame]http://twitter.com/sportingintel/status/1747402830531453346[/ame]
              Last edited by RichC; 17-01-24, 09:46 AM.
              Klopp on LFC vs MUFC (March 9th 2016) - "This is why I love football. This is why we watched it when we were young. I can still not have enough of it."


              Always, keep your face to the sun, and shadows will fall behind you.

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              • Slinky Skills
                Micka "don't f*** with me" Wallace
                • Sep 2007
                • 20516

                #8497
                [ame]http://twitter.com/sportingintel/status/1747403396963795138[/ame]
                Last edited by RichC; 17-01-24, 09:47 AM.
                Klopp on LFC vs MUFC (March 9th 2016) - "This is why I love football. This is why we watched it when we were young. I can still not have enough of it."


                Always, keep your face to the sun, and shadows will fall behind you.

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                • Mark79
                  Paisley
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 11006

                  #8498
                  [ame]https://twitter.com/sportingintel/status/1747398758025801826[/ame]
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                  • Pablo
                    Anti-Antipodeanite
                    • May 2007
                    • 25808

                    #8499
                    Can someone do a thread unroll? I don't have Twitter.

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                    • S-RED
                      Shankly
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 6929

                      #8500
                      Lots of commentary in past 36hrs about why PL charges under PSR rules against EFC and NFFC appear to be being expedited, while Man City's 115 charges (from an investigation dating back to 2018) linger, TBD on a now-agreed but not public timetable 1/n
                      11:21 PM · Jan 16, 2024

                      Everton (for a second time) and Forest have been charged for "simple" failures to balance their books around the "acceptable" losses of £105m over a 3-year ruling period. 2/n

                      Whereas Man City's 115 charges effectively amount to accusations they were conducting financial fraud on a grand scale over a long period, and hoodwinking not just the PL but UEFA, and not co-operating. 3/n

                      We know from Football Leaks and other sources that the City hierarchy's view has long been they'd “rather spend £30m on the 50 best lawyers” and sue Uefa “for the next ten years” than accept a punishment. THIS is plutocracy. 4/n

                      They HAVE spent millions on lawyers. The've used every legal avenue possible to stall the process. When I was an MoS reporter in 2021 we used an external QC to gain access to "open justice" and attend court as City tried to stymie the PL's investigation. 5/n

                      If Man City's supposed mountain of irrefutable evidence of their innocence is ready to go, then bring it on and get it sorted. For the benefit of everyone. 6/n


                      They could have cooperated almost SIX years ago when the PL first started investigating them, and they didn't. That's their prerogative. It's not great on the optics but they don't care about optics. 7/n

                      There is also a massive (MASSIVE) political element to this case. Sheikh Mansour is the deputy PM of a significant political ally of the United Kingdom. Imagine if he and his club were shamed by multiple guilty verdicts. Unprecedented and unpalatable. 8/n

                      I'll be submitting further FOIs to try to establish the extent of British government involvement in the PL vs City case, but others so far have been fruitless. The stakes are SO much higher than whether a football club broke some football rules. 9/n

                      Some (some) City fans go to extremes to convince themselves there's no case against City. Despite having been fined 90m euros (later reduced to "only" 30m) for major breaches of financial rules, and dishonesty, and non-cooperation. Before 115 PL charges.

                      I've reported on City my whole working life. I knew, and know, people inside the club at all levels. I've been Khaldoon's guest in their directors' suite (albeit before I called them out). I have multiple sources who told me what really happened. 11/n

                      Man City's hierarchy realised around 2010 that they needed "accelerated investment' before UEFA's FFP came into force. Their solution was cooking the books. That was evident from their 2014 punishment onwards. It's all been in plain sight. 12/12 Goodnight. X

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                      • Pablo
                        Anti-Antipodeanite
                        • May 2007
                        • 25808

                        #8501
                        Nice, thanks.

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                        • ChesterDave
                          Paisley
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 32224

                          #8502
                          If the UK turning a blind eye to ally Saudi ethnically cleansing Yemeni's then opining when Yemeni's start giving some **** back we can be 99% sure they will interfere to protect another ally from wrong doing in football despite all they bleating about the need for football to have a regulator.
                          Football without Origi is nothing

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                          • Norbs
                            Big Girl's Blouse
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 42644

                            #8503
                            Originally posted by Slinky Skills
                            I'm sure I read somewhere that they had already met with our government in a bid to get the charges dropped. If our government intervenes with sporting integrity then the game has reached a point of no return

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                            • Exiled_red
                              Paisley
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 55280

                              #8504
                              Originally posted by Norbs
                              I'm sure I read somewhere that they had already met with our government in a bid to get the charges dropped. If our government intervenes with sporting integrity then the game has reached a point of no return
                              Yeah

                              The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                              • Norbs
                                Big Girl's Blouse
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 42644

                                #8505
                                That's a ****ing joke

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