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    Originally posted by clanhuman View Post
    Can't agree with that. As shocking as Adam was, Downing has been worse for me and Keane at least scored a few goals for us. I've never really hated a Liverpool player. I'm ashamed to say since Downing came along that has changed. I can't stand the sight of him!!
    I really don't see that. Off the top of my head I could name twenty worse players who've played for LFC since we last won the title. That's not to say Downing has been good - he clearly has been very poor - it's just that we've had a lot of bad players.

    Of course the fee complicates it - does Downing at £20m have to be 40 times better than Jean-Michel Ferri for £500k? - but ignoring that, there are plenty of worse players to have worn red.
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    Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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      Was just looking through some earlier posts on him. A lot were saying he was in the top 3 LB's in the prem. His form has dropped remarkably.

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        Originally posted by Tee View Post
        Good to see Wee Jay there in the bottom right corner.
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        Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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          Dalglish was **** at signing players.

          Its a proven fact.

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            He's turned into John Arne Riise
            Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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              Maintain that Riise was better.

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                Originally posted by Daniel 7 View Post
                Maintain that Riise was better.
                sorry, do you mean champion's league winning john arne riise? that john arne riise?

                dave of mutilation

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                  His main strength was his defensive solidity. He was always **** in an attacking sense but now his defensive solidity has gone, he is **** in every sense of the term.
                  Are we winning?

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                    Traore or Enrique?

                    YOU Decide!
                    "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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                      Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                      I really don't see that. Off the top of my head I could name twenty worse players who've played for LFC since we last won the title. That's not to say Downing has been good - he clearly has been very poor - it's just that we've had a lot of bad players.

                      Of course the fee complicates it - does Downing at £20m have to be 40 times better than Jean-Michel Ferri for £500k? - but ignoring that, there are plenty of worse players to have worn red.
                      Oh I agree there have been worse players that have worn red. I was definitely taking the fee into consideration as I said he was our worst transfer ever. I have built up a genuine hatred of him.

                      As you say, there have been worse players to play for us. My reason for saying Downing is our worst transfer ever is mostly down to the fee. Its just in my recent memory, and to my knowledge, I can't think of anyone who in terms of value for money has given us less. (Keane and Aquilani come close but Downing shades it for me).

                      The worst kind of players for me are the cowards. He has to be one of the most cowardly, gutless players to play for us. A 17 year old boy has shown more fight and determination than him. Even when he has lost his place in the team it doesn't seem to affect his game. He still plays without heart. Maybe I am being too harsh but obviously the 20 odd million doesn't help matters...

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                        Can't choose between Downing and Aquilani.

                        From a playing games for us, you have to say Aquilani was the worst deal ever - but then there's Andy Carroll which could even eclipse that.

                        Whatever - some of the business we have done over the last 5 years has been catastrophic. I don't think there is a major club in European football that has such a catalogue of big money disasters in such a relatively short period of time

                        Carroll
                        Aquilani
                        Downing

                        Terrible signings.

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                          Originally posted by Daniel 7 View Post
                          Can't choose between Downing and Aquilani.

                          From a playing games for us, you have to say Aquilani was the worst deal ever - but then there's Andy Carroll which could even eclipse that.

                          Whatever - some of the business we have done over the last 5 years has been catastrophic. I don't think there is a major club in European football that has such a catalogue of big money disasters in such a relatively short period of time

                          Carroll
                          Aquilani
                          Downing

                          Terrible signings.
                          At least Andy Carroll scored in the FA Cup Semi-Final and very nearly turned the final around for us. Those were memorable moments. Downing has had next to no memorable moments. I think having Aquilani injured for 18 months is as much use as having Stewart Downing fit for 18 months. OK, maybe I am being biased because of how much I can't stand Downing.

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                            Andy Carroll did the minimum you would expect of a striker and had the desired impact you would want from an impact sub.

                            As it is, he never made a telling difference, because we still lost.

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                              Downing did well in the Carling cup final.
                              The thing with Downing is he's got the attributes, he's imo not got the personality to play for a 'big team'
                              We come not to play.

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                                Sell him back to Boro.

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