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    #1471
    I thought he got his 8 game ban, and then we came out with the T-shirts? I'm almost certain of it. I have been wrong on the past though. Once.

    Edit: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...-suarez-shirts

    Says the tshirts were a reaction to the ban. Maybe your mixing up the ban, and the FA report. That came out on New Year's Eve.
    Last edited by Alex; 10-10-12, 08:19 PM.
    *Except Michael, who died.

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      #1472
      I remember it the other way round.

      Anyway, whatever the facts, that's what Triesman said.

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/sep/30/black-players-john-terry-lord-triesman


      "If I was asked to guess [why the inconsistency], I'd think the dignity with which [chairman] Bruce Buck and the guys at Chelsea have handled this may well be in sharp contrast to the way Liverpool handled the Suárez case, which I thought was a masterclass in how not to do it."
      .
      Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



      May the Lord bless this post.

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        #1473
        I agree with what he says there. But he is wrong in what he thinks the timeline was. So in that case, he is totally wrong in what he is saying.

        I wish Triesmen was this proactive while in charge of the FA, and not trying to tell everyone that the world and his wife was on the take
        *Except Michael, who died.

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          #1474
          I wonder how thing would be different if Luis had also gone to court, or if Terry's hadn't and he was up in front of the Kangeroo court only.

          The only certainty is that both sides would have handled it differently for each scenario, so I think the way each side handled things was only a product of each environment and turn of events - not because Chelsea handled it 'the right way' and we didn't - because the two situations aren't the same.

          I'm certain any club would have flipped out to some degree had exactly the same thing(s) happened to them as it did us.
          Hello mert.

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            #1475
            Originally posted by Alex View Post
            I thought he got his 8 game ban, and then we came out with the T-shirts? I'm almost certain of it. I have been wrong on the past though. Once.

            Edit: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...-suarez-shirts

            Says the tshirts were a reaction to the ban. Maybe your mixing up the ban, and the FA report. That came out on New Year's Eve.
            The t-shirts were definitely before the ban.
            That rug really tied the room together.

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              #1476
              Originally posted by Liverpel View Post
              The t-shirts were definitely before the ban.
              No, I'm wrong there. They were after the ban was announced but before the report came out.
              That rug really tied the room together.

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                #1477
                *Except Michael, who died.

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                  #1478
                  Originally posted by Alex View Post

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                    #1479
                    Yeah, you're right about the T-shirts but the club's stance was perfectly clear before the hearing. I don't think it invalidates Triesman's point.

                    However my point was that, whether or not he's right about the timeline, Triesman thinks it natural for a club's PR campaign to affect the punishment handed out to a player for misconduct. That's unjust.
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                    Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                    May the Lord bless this post.

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                      #1480
                      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-19950407


                      If Frankie Boyle successfully sues the Mirror for calling him a racist then surely Suarez could too?

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                        #1481
                        Originally posted by TheElephantMan View Post
                        http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-19950407

                        If Frankie Boyle successfully sues the Mirror for calling him a racist then surely Suarez could too?
                        I don't think it would really help though - if he did that it would just be more ammunition for media circus to gun us with.

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                          #1482
                          Decided not appeal.
                          Oh I don't know.

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                            #1483
                            Originally posted by dom9 View Post
                            Decided not appeal.

                            Admitting guilt

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                              #1484
                              Originally posted by Assassin View Post
                              Admitting guilt
                              Strange how we think. When Suarez did not appeal, it was because the FA was useless, but Terry doesn't appeal and its admitting guilt.

                              Im not saying you are a Hypocrite, because I don't know what you said for the Suarez case. But that is a very tribal way of looking at it, don't you think?
                              *Except Michael, who died.

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                                #1485
                                Originally posted by Alex View Post
                                Strange how we think. When Suarez did not appeal, it was because the FA was useless, but Terry doesn't appeal and its admitting guilt.

                                Im not saying you are a Hypocrite, because I don't know what you said for the Suarez case. But that is a very tribal way of looking at it, don't you think?
                                Its not how we think. This is my thoughts. Nothing to do with tribes. He has protested his innocence all along........

                                It is different to the Suarez case and should not be compared. "****ing b**** cunt" is not subject to interpretation. "Negrito" is very open to interpretation, especially when it used commonly in your native language as a normal everyday word

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