Racism in Football

[Alex]

Yeah, but does that matter? It was a big paper that did it. They called him a Racist. Now someone else has been banned for the same thing, what have they branded him? Nothing. They say that the FA is calling him Racist.

[Kenneth]

Yeah, but does that matter? It was a big paper that did it. They called him a Racist. Now someone else has been banned for the same thing, what have they branded him? Nothing. They say that the FA is calling him Racist.

True, but does that really matter either? Theyre on dodgier ground with terry because of his aquital in court. Luis's case was never going to go to court so they had more confidence from a legal perspective. Meh. It's not as if tabloids are consistent in their reporting of other issues either.

[ChesterDave]

You must have fat thumbs as some of the letters are way out on the keyboard

FAt thumbs and a Terrible phone. Tried to write 'Of' yesterday and it offered me yhx as a suggestion.

Galaxy S3 on oder though

[Alex]

I guess it doesn't matter. I just hate that Luis is the Villain still. He seems like such a nice bloke. I just want everyone to love him as much as I do

[ChesterDave]

Has Piara Power said anything yet ?

FARE have not said anything either. They reported on Suzrez the next day so if there is no article on Terry today then I'll be editing their Wikipedia page.

[McDermotX]

I guess it doesn't matter. I just hate that Luis is the Villain still. He seems like such a nice bloke. I just want everyone to love him as much as I do

All he apparently does is go round to Lucas' house and play Monopoly.

A far cry from the wanton, depraved and sordid individual the media would have us believe.

[Assassin]

I'm getting concerned as to the whereabouts of both Power and Carlisle.

At least 16 hours since this decision and neither of them have been seen nor heard from on the national media.

FARE have not said anything either. They reported on Suarez the next day so if there is no article on Terry today then I'll be editing their Wikipedia page.

This should be put out on twitter. I dont have an account. Come on twitterers get busy

[Kenneth]

I guess it doesn't matter. I just hate that Luis is the Villain still. He seems like such a nice bloke. I just want everyone to love him as much as I do

. He's a lovable racist.

[dom9]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19749030

John Terry's FA punishment a shambles, says Joey Barton

QPR midfielder Joey Barton has called the Football Association's punishment of John Terry a "shambles".

The Chelsea captain received a four-match ban and was fined £220,000 for racially abusing QPR's Anton Ferdinand.

Barton, on loan at Marseille, is serving a 12-match domestic suspension for violent conduct.

"What an absolute farce. Twelve games for violent conduct and only four for that. [The] FA should be embarrassed. #Shambles," Barton tweeted.
Barton, who played in the match on 23 October 2011 in which the incident between Terry and Ferdinand occurred, added: "By the FA's perverse reckoning, I'd [have] got less of a ban for racially abusing the Man City players than tickling them as I did.

"In what circumstances can that be right?"

Jose Mourinho, Terry's former manager at Chelsea , insisted the defender is "not a racist".

The Real Madrid coach said: "He's not racist, that's 100 per cent. Probably he had a racist comment or attitude against an opponent. Sometimes in football we do things the wrong way.

"If he had that reaction he should pay but please don't say he's a racist. [Didier] Drogba, [Claude] Makelele... all of them will say he's not a racist."

Former England manager Graham Taylor hopes Terry accepts the verdict rather than appealing against it.

"Having sat on these panels and made judgements myself I know those people will have come to their conclusion in an honest and proper manner - they will have had legal advice," he said.

"Whether John and Chelsea accept is it up to them, but I think it might be in everyone's interest to put it to bed."

Former Football Association executive director David Davies believes the case should have been resolved sooner than it has been.

"It's gone on far too long. It should never have been allowed to drag on for a year," he told BBC Sport.

"I hope lessons have been learned from it, not just by those concerned, but also by the FA."

BBC Match of the Day presenter and former England striker Gary Lineker wrote on Twitter: "The FA find John Terry guilty and give him a four-match ban and 220K fine. Just one game more than a regular red card?"

Ex-England and Liverpool midfielder John Barnes said the outcome will not change people's views of the Chelsea defender, who has 14 days to appeal against the panel's ruling.

"Regardless of whether he has been found guilty or not, people will already have had an opinion [on Terry]," Barnes said.

"I don't think this has necessarily changed anybody's opinion - very much like with the [Luis] Suarez situation [where the Liverpool player was given an eight-game ban and a £40,000 fine for racially abusing Patrice Evra]."

MP Damian Collins says the ban presents Terry with an opportunity to acknowledge what he did was "wrong".

"He admitted making the remarks," Collins said. "It is unacceptable for a player to make such remarks, so it was hard for the FA to come to any other decision.

"John Terry is still a relatively young man. He's got a chance to move on from this and be a role model again.

"What he has to do is acknowledge that - regardless of what the FA has said, regardless of what a court of law has said - he was wrong.

"He has to build his own bridges with black players, who were very upset by what happened."

Kick it Out's Lord Ouseley believes the game has to move on now that the case has been concluded.

He told BBC Radio 5 live: "This is not about recriminations. It's about how football moves forward from here after it has spent 11 months going through the wringer.

"People are trying to make the game a better place to be. Seven million people play on a regular basis and we want them to play in an atmosphere of no abuse."

[Red_Polo]

Wasn't Drogba one amongst a number of black Chelsea players notable by their absence from the long list of players providing character witness statements for Terry?

[Shaggy]

Yep he was.

What Terry's sympathisers have never explained is why, inside football, it was known well before the trial began that Didier Drogba, Nicolas Anelka, Mikel John Obi and Chelsea's Kick It Out ambassador, Florent Malouda, were not among those from Stamford Bridge who had signed statements supporting their colleague.

Contrary to what Grant says, there has actually been a great sense of anger and revulsion within the game about what Terry said to Ferdinand when Chelsea played at QPR last season. Some of Terry's England colleagues have had to blank it out. At least one is understood to have confronted him.

Fitz Hall is another example – a player Terry talked about during the trial as if they were old mates, going back years. Hall was a QPR player when Terry and Ferdinand started their row. The message Hall put on Twitter on 13 July, the day of Terry's acquittal, was short and to the point: "****ing joke."

He was far from alone. "Thanks football – you set entire country back a decade," John Amaechi, the former NBA basketball player, said. "Madness" was the word used by Anthony Gerrard, a Cardiff City player at the time.

[Norbs]

BBC needs to be challenged on including that quote from Mourinho

[dww]

BBC needs to be challenged on including that quote from Mourinho

Why?

[dom9]

BBC needs to be challenged on including that quote from Mourinho

Why? If Mourinho said, he should be challenged surely?

[Vermilion]

John Barnes been talking on TS now, the bloke talks soooo much sense, it's been quite a shock to hear him over the last year.

He just explains things from a different angle, and considers totally... both sides of the argument in how Black and White people view things, with both 'sides' at times showing racist views, without realising it.