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If Ashley Cole is backing Terrys story up, and says he heard Anton say the word 'Black', then that's very very good for JT, could even be the deciding factor.
Also told them Terry should never have been brought to court.
If Ashley Cole is backing Terrys story up, and says he heard Anton say the word 'Black', then that's very very good for JT, could even be the deciding factor.
Also told them Terry should never have been brought to court.
I can't stand Ashley Cole. What an ass kisser.
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wtf has Ray Wilkins got to do with this, surely character references are a waste of time in a case like this, it's not whether JT is a racist, it's about whether he made a racist comment in the heat of the moment, wtf can Ray Wilkins say to help anything!.....or Jose ****in Maureen for that matter!
'Oh i don't believe John would say such a thing, he's a good good boy'
In this whole quest for justice, and need to eliminate Racism in all it's forms from society. Us wanting Terry to be found guilty isn't exactly progressive is it? We are essentially doing the same as everyone else did against Suarez.
I have a bad taste in my mouth after last Decembers fiasco, and this just has the feeling of the same thing.
In this whole quest for justice, and need to eliminate Racism in all it's forms from society. Us wanting Terry to be found guilty isn't exactly progressive is it? We are essentially doing the same as everyone else did against Suarez.
I have a bad taste in my mouth after last Decembers fiasco, and this just has the feeling of the same thing.
Depends really, whether people want him to be found guilty because he is\was guilty, and that's proven, or whether they could'nt care less if he was guilty or not, but still want him to be found guilty.
In this whole quest for justice, and need to eliminate Racism in all it's forms from society. Us wanting Terry to be found guilty isn't exactly progressive is it? We are essentially doing the same as everyone else did against Suarez.
I have a bad taste in my mouth after last Decembers fiasco, and this just has the feeling of the same thing.
this is very true. maybe the Liverpool fans wouldnt want to see jt hung high and dry if it wasnt for the fa's condemnation of suarez, and their subsequent support [through lack of action] of jt.
or maybe he is a **** who is getting his just desserts, hopefully
removing all the weak links makes us stronger
too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.
In this whole quest for justice, and need to eliminate Racism in all it's forms from society. Us wanting Terry to be found guilty isn't exactly progressive is it? We are essentially doing the same as everyone else did against Suarez.
I have a bad taste in my mouth after last Decembers fiasco, and this just has the feeling of the same thing.
You're right of course. I want Terry to be found guilty because I have a shallow dislike, not because i feel justice needs doing. I don't feel that because I don't believe him calling Anton Ferdinand a black cunt is a big deal. It would be very unpleasant, but I don't think it would have had a profound effect on him, I don't think his life would have been impacted in any meaningful way at all in fact. The racism that does sicken me is when people are disadvantaged, emotionally damaged, have their self confidence impacted, face a continued assault becasue of their race etc. Things of importance to the lives of the victims. This **** is just a sideshow between a bunch of spoilt juvenile ****s
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It all feels to me like people are happy for Terry to go down regardless. Which is wrong. He is a cunt of a human being, but that's not enough to see you in court. The racism charge is just something people can get hold of to beat him. It's not just people on here, it's everywhere.
The same happened with Suarez, which is why it's not right.
Edit: Forgot to say. If he is found innocent, I guess people will be annoyed. Not because they feel justice isn't being done, but because the CPS couldn't nail him now. That's totally wrong. Racism in any form sickens me. But if he is found innocent, then he is just that. We have to move one, otherwise we will look even more bitter and twisted than we are.
It all feels to me like people are happy for Terry to go down regardless. Which is wrong. He is a cunt of a human being, but that's not enough to see you in court. The racism charge is just something people can get hold of to beat him. It's not just people on here, it's everywhere.
The same happened with Suarez, which is why it's not right.
So if Suarez hadn't gone through what he did, you'd be happy to see JT suffer ?
So if Suarez hadn't gone through what he did, you'd be happy to see JT suffer ?
Probably yes. But we all got educated in this area because of it, so my sympathys changed. I'm not sympathetic towards Terry because of who he is, but I am to anyone that is wrongly accused of something they are not.
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