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  • RichC
    Meh
    • Jul 2006
    • 37415

    #26476
    Up top they've got some great options but the central midfield is still pretty weak and the defence isn't amazing IMO either, I've never been sold on Varane particularly and I didn't think he was great at the weekend.

    They'll be in and around it though as they've got some serious firepower which will see them roll over a lot of sides in the league.

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    • Doc_Piptorious
      • Jul 2006
      • 40258

      #26477
      Originally posted by RichC
      Up top they've got some great options but the central midfield is still pretty weak and the defence isn't amazing IMO either, I've never been sold on Varane particularly and I didn't think he was great at the weekend.

      They'll be in and around it though as they've got some serious firepower which will see them roll over a lot of sides in the league.

      Don't think their central midfield is all that weak to be honest. It might be quite functional rather than eye catching, but it compliments the attack and back line well, and does the donkey work as well as if not better than at least the midfields of two thirds of the teams in the league.

      Their back line is similar in my eyes. Very functional as well at times albeit to a higher level of being functional than their midfield, but again it is very effective.

      Would argue that their squad as a whole actually underperforms a lot of the time and that the squad they had last season would have won the title if it was being coached/organised by a quality manager.
      I don't hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around.


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      • RichC
        Meh
        • Jul 2006
        • 37415

        #26478
        Originally posted by Jaco_Pastorious
        Don't think their central midfield is all that weak to be honest. It might be quite functional rather than eye catching, but it compliments the attack and back line well, and does the donkey work as well as if not better than at least the midfields of two thirds of the teams in the league.

        Their back line is similar in my eyes. Very functional as well at times albeit to a higher level of being functional than their midfield, but again it is very effective.

        Would argue that their squad as a whole actually underperforms a lot of the time and that the squad they had last season would have won the title if it was being coached/organised by a quality manager.
        Midfield against Newcastle got cut through a few times at the weekend, neither Fred, Matic or McTomminay are up to it for me.

        We'll see where they end up and I think they'll be in the shout this season for it but still some weaknesses in key areas and I'm far from convinced that Ole has it in him for the big games

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        • Pablo
          Anti-Antipodeanite
          • May 2007
          • 25808

          #26479
          Originally posted by Fivex
          Only 9 articles mentioning Ronaldo in the title on the BBC Football homepage today
          Did vlahka write them all?

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          • Fosterbloke
            Run the Jewels
            • Dec 2009
            • 39095

            #26480
            Originally posted by RichC
            Midfield against Newcastle got cut through a few times at the weekend
            So did ours, Leeds had several decent chances where they bypassed our midfield.
            Was mu

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            • Doc_Piptorious
              • Jul 2006
              • 40258

              #26481
              Originally posted by RichC
              Midfield against Newcastle got cut through a few times at the weekend, neither Fred, Matic or McTomminay are up to it for me.

              We'll see where they end up and I think they'll be in the shout this season for it but still some weaknesses in key areas and I'm far from convinced that Ole has it in him for the big games

              Thing is though their midfield is good enough to be part of a unit that beats most non top six teams more often than not, and it is also good enough to stifle/spoil/frustrate against better midfields a lot of the time as well.


              Does their team and squad have weaknesses in it? Yes it does but you would be hard pushed to find any team without weaknesses or that did not have scope for some improvement.

              Even our own team once you move past the starting XI has plenty of weaknesses in it, and there are plenty on here that would argue that the starting XI could be improved upon in a position of two.

              For me, the biggest weakness Man U have is the manager and I do think if they had someone like Klopp in charge last season, using the squad they had last season, that they would have won the title. Their squad was certainly not weaker than the Leicester title winning squad and like that Leicester team/wquad it seems to have the ability/potential to be greater as a team than the sum of it's parts.

              Until of course you look at Ole and then we are back to them having their biggest obstacle leading them.
              I don't hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around.


              Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness

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              • Scratch
                If you fail once....
                • Jul 2006
                • 7887

                #26482
                Originally posted by HamboCairns
                So did ours, Leeds had several decent chances where they bypassed our midfield.
                Several? One in the 5th minute that a better player would have scored, but other than that I can only remember Bamford trying to lob Alisson from about 40yds? Admittedly I was trying to cook a curry at the same time as watching, but I don't think i missed that much?

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                • Fosterbloke
                  Run the Jewels
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 39095

                  #26483
                  Originally posted by Scratch
                  Several? One in the 5th minute that a better player would have scored, but other than that I can only remember Bamford trying to lob Alisson from about 40yds? Admittedly I was trying to cook a curry at the same time as watching, but I don't think i missed that much?
                  Ayling should have buried one in the top corner too. Raphina's run and pass too.
                  Was mu

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                  • RichC
                    Meh
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 37415

                    #26484
                    Originally posted by Jaco_Pastorious
                    Thing is though their midfield is good enough to be part of a unit that beats most non top six teams more often than not, and it is also good enough to stifle/spoil/frustrate against better midfields a lot of the time as well.


                    Does their team and squad have weaknesses in it? Yes it does but you would be hard pushed to find any team without weaknesses or that did not have scope for some improvement.

                    Even our own team once you move past the starting XI has plenty of weaknesses in it, and there are plenty on here that would argue that the starting XI could be improved upon in a position of two.

                    For me, the biggest weakness Man U have is the manager and I do think if they had someone like Klopp in charge last season, using the squad they had last season, that they would have won the title. Their squad was certainly not weaker than the Leicester title winning squad and like that Leicester team/wquad it seems to have the ability/potential to be greater as a team than the sum of it's parts.

                    Until of course you look at Ole and then we are back to them having their biggest obstacle leading them.
                    Of course we have weaknesses but the point really is that with the midfield they have they will struggle against the fellow top 6 and with Ole even more so.

                    Up top they'll score a load this season I think and Ronaldo will get a fair share of goals against sides this season, we all know he's going to score for them.

                    I think the favourites for the title should probably Chelsea with the squad they have followed by City then us and the Mancs.

                    It'll be an interesting season tbh especially with fans back, a few players that stood out in empty stadiums might well go back the other way with the fans back (Shaw)

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                    • Buzzo
                      Donald Buzzworth
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 67435

                      #26485
                      I'm so bored of them.

                      I have so far successfully avoided everything to do with their game at the weekend
                      Modifying post.

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                      • Shaggy
                        Unidentified Rascal
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 135533

                        #26486
                        Me too
                        Thanks very much for being

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                        • Buzzo
                          Donald Buzzworth
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 67435

                          #26487


                          I only watch our game on MOTD now. I fast forward the rest.

                          I've gone old school. The only time I find out about the opposition is when we play them. I've no interest in watching highlights of them, City, Chelsea etc.

                          If there is a good goal or controversial incident, then I will see it on here.
                          Modifying post.

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                          • Fivex
                            The Wisp
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 23867

                            #26488


                            Exactly the same here. Watching other teams interests me about as much as watching an England game.
                            Hello mert.

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                            • danperkins
                              Martin Skrtel can win a game of Connect Four in three moves
                              • May 2010
                              • 50411

                              #26489
                              Originally posted by HamboCairns
                              Some players just keep going -

                              Ronaldo
                              Milner
                              Ibrahimovic
                              Totti
                              Silva

                              Great players that remain top class close to their 40s!
                              these guys just keep themselves in such good condition physically and mentality that it prolongs their career. Elite athletes.

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                                Paisley
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 10150

                                #26490
                                Originally posted by Fivex


                                Exactly the same here. Watching other teams interests me about as much as watching an England game.
                                +1

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